stormlight Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Seem a little high? How much for a OEM starter? How many hours to replace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Where do you live, I'll do it for $450.00 BTW how much is the starter ? With the TMIC removed it should be easy. The TMIC is easy to remove. Check the on line auto parts stores for prices. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=YeF&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&q=2005+Subaru+starter+rock+auto&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= Also check our friends at Fredbeans.com 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormlight Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 250 for the starter online oem. I just don't get the 250 for labor. Thats like almost 3 hours for labor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 I'd have to say the Subaru starter looks like the easiest to replace of any car I've ever seen. It's practically presented to you on a silver platter, without having to even look under the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinTech Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 A reman starter from autozone online is $150 including core charge. It is super easy to replace, took me about an hour. All you have to do is take the TMIC off and it is accessible from under the hood on the drivers side of the engine. This is for a manual transmission. The starter for the automatic is $265 including core charge. I can't imagine replacing it would be much different than the manual transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormlight Posted August 5, 2010 Author Share Posted August 5, 2010 So dealer has it. They can't get it to start after a new stater was replaced. What else could be the reason? I get full dash board lights, and a clicking when trying to start. They said something about the circuit board. It been almost 8 days and I'm ready to tow it away from them. Any ideas? Thanks for the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktmrider Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Filling out the profile on your car would help a bit. If 5MT could be the clutch safety switch, disables the starter relay. Or the relay itself is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trl21068 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Stormlight If you turn on the lights and try to start do the lights dim? One of my other cars(1988 Ford Bronco II) used to have problems starting on occasion. All electrical items would work but the starter. I would hear clicking from the relay but the starter wouldn't turn. The problem was a bad battery cable. This happened at least four times over the years I had this car. The first time it happened I replaced the starter, and spent about a week trying different things. Then my dad hands me one of those battery terminals that clamp on the end of the cable. I cut the OEM end off the cable, clamp the new terminal on and the car started first time. After the second time I started carrying a spare positive cable in the car at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-lo Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Filling out the profile on your car would help a bit. If 5MT could be the clutch safety switch, disables the starter relay. Or the relay itself is bad. funny how YOU have to come on here to find out why it won't start. another great service department at work it sounds. mine was the clutch position switch. just died one day. So since it wasn't your starter......are you going to have to pay for it? I mean if it didn't have to be replaced why should you have to pay for it? Subie specialist I had my car towed to knew it was the clutch position switch and not the starter...... 258k miles - Stock engine/minor suspension upgrades/original shocks/rear struts replaced at 222k/4 passenger side wheel bearings/3 clutches/1 radiator/3 turbos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofthouse_gt Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I just had a very similar experience happen on my friends 2001 chevy cavalier. Full power we had replace the starter, alternator, tensioner pulley and battery still no start we were like WTF. Ended up being the AC compressor pulley had seized not allowing the motor to turn over. My question to you is when trying to start the car does it act like it wants to turn over, but doesn't quite have enough power or umph as I'd like to say? If the answer is yes I would check all of the pulley's to make sure one hasn't seized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Samson Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Ahh the joy of troubleshooting 'no start' in modern cars... This could be a litany of issues...switches, sensors, wiring, keys, relays, etc. In the wrong mechanic's hands they will just start throwing parts at the problem, and that will turn what should be a $150 fix into a $1500 'fix' (no promises!). Anyway, step one is to definitely get the car away from whoever recommended the starter replacement. If they're not capable of detecting a bad starter vs other problems then I wouldn't trust them to change my oil...or even my wiper blades. Step 2, determine if you are willing to do some troubleshooting/diagnostic work to figure out where the issue is. If you're not, then its time to start researching nearby mechanics. If you ARE going to look over the car yourself, scour this and other forums for other vehicles that have exhibited similar problems and make a list. Process of elimination now. You can also Google something like "no start troubleshooting" and there are some pretty decent guides to teasing out the answer. Step 3, Don't spend any significant amount of money on any parts until you are pretty certain you've identified the problem. As stated you can add an order of magnitude or more to the cost of repairs by throwing parts at a car (same thing basically goes for computers). Finally, when asking questions here, be as detailed as you possibly can. Remember that all we know is what you tell us, and our advice is only as good as what we know. $500 for a starter motor replacement is really excessive. Labor definitely shouldn't exceed $100 or so (2 hours max...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strizzy Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Could also be a bad battery. My bad luck build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormlight Posted August 5, 2010 Author Share Posted August 5, 2010 thanks to all. It was a relay. Trying to find out which one. I heard a mumble of the relay in the security system. Looking to see if that is what I think should be a 30 dollar part. What a clusterF. Scratch that dealer of my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I'd have to say the Subaru starter looks like the easiest to replace of any car I've ever seen. It's practically presented to you on a silver platter, without having to even look under the car. . Nicely put John! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Labor definitely shouldn't exceed $100 or so (2 hours max...) Thats $150-200 for 2 hours here . most shops $75-90/hr these days making turning a wrench on your own ride a lot more appealing on your own time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
executor485 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Could also be a bad battery. +1 on this... was having some issues with the car starting and I totally thought it was the starter. About 2 months later the battery (optima yellow top) just flat out died, wouldnt hold a charge or anything. Swapped out the battery and havent had the problem in over 4 months. If I pass you on the right, I'm flipping you off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06legsleeper Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 replacing my starter this weekend its making that dreaded sound they do like its stuck engauged some times...(bad bendix or armature) and once and a while i get the key in crank, and hear spin spin ... so new starter it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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