naimouasta Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 being that the new 2015 sti has 13:1 hydraulic steering and the underpinnings are similar to 2008-14 impreza's, what are the chances that the steering rack bolting up to a legacy (4th gen specifically)? if it does, it'll be an awesome upgrade second hand once people start crashing those 2015's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyMachine Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I'm not positive, but I think the newer (MY15+) are based off of the 5th gen Legacy, not 4th. Pick one up and let me know if it works lol. I'm interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naimouasta Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 ok so this idea wasn't new. if it fits a GR, i guess it'll fit the 4th gen legacy's. yay http://www.iwsti.com/forums/gr-suspension-handling-stiffening/268436-swap-2015-rack-into-earlier-sti.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naimouasta Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 another link. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2601789 also people are sayin ~$500 not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charged Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 I would do it. It'll be interesting to see how easily it bolts up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 $500 is very cheap for an STi rack. If they are looking on Rock Auto, they don't have the correct part numbers, and sell you an old WRX steering rack. Seen many folks get screwed over on that. -Mike Paisan http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/153798190.jpg Maintaining, Modifying and Educating TriState Enthusiasts since 2001. Like us on Facebook! | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1 (2971) |AIM: AZP Installs "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baci Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 The 13:1 ratio would be sweet! But having to disable VDC blows. My car needs a new rack so bad, this would be sweet if it was just a straight replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claw Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Would an 04 STI steering rack fit an 05 LGT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tito_b0y Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Bump. Anyone do the swap on a Legacy yet? Found out today I need to replace my leaking steering rack, and was wondering if I can make my DD a little more fun. 2006 SWP 3.0R 5EAT VDC BBQ 2008 OBP 2.5i 4EAT BBQ [RIP] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcteryx Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Bump again. I'm curious about this as well, now that Impreza folks have been doing it for awhile now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamiSteven Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Me too, need to replace mine as it has developed a slow leak. Looked at rockauto and seems like they are the ones that sell a reman'd one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcteryx Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I'd recommend following the NASIOC thread: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2601789&page=7 T-37 is swapping the 2015 rack into his GD, so I think whatever applies there will apply to our cars as well. So far, it looks like just a spacer (and maybe tierod adjustment) is all that's necessary. Fingers crossed... Flatiron Tuning is also talking about possibly selling retrofit kits, but that could be months (if not years) away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssbtech Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Anyone put a GT rack on an Outback? Someone once told me it couldn't be done, but I think the only real difference was the longer steering column on the Outback. It's like steering a sailboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I'd recommend following the NASIOC thread: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2601789&page=7 T-37 is swapping the 2015 rack into his GD, so I think whatever applies there will apply to our cars as well. So far, it looks like just a spacer (and maybe tierod adjustment) is all that's necessary. Fingers crossed... You're overthinking this. The 4th gen Legacy front suspension is almost identical to the GH8 WRX, and we share the same crossmember and steering column universal joint. The '15 STi rack will bolt up straight up to the GH8 and it will therefore bolt up to the 4G Legacy Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Anyone put a GT rack on an Outback? Someone once told me it couldn't be done, but I think the only real difference was the longer steering column on the Outback. It's like steering a sailboat. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/info-ob-gt-suspension-geometry-removing-spacer-180579.html I think you can. I think it's as easy as swapping in the rack and leaving the longer steering knuckle on. edit: just saw that you asked questions in that thread. So ignore me. My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcteryx Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 You're overthinking this. The 4th gen Legacy front suspension is almost identical to the GH8 WRX, and we share the same crossmember and steering column universal joint. The '15 STi rack will bolt up straight up to the GH8 and it will therefore bolt up to the 4G Legacy I did not know that. I thought that the BH/BP Legacy was closer to the GD/GG chassis. Do you know if the LGT's universal has the rubber dampener, or is it solid like the STi's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I did not know that. I thought that the BH/BP Legacy was closer to the GD/GG chassis. Do you know if the LGT's universal has the rubber dampener, or is it solid like the STi's? rubber My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I did not know that. I thought that the BH/BP Legacy was closer to the GD/GG chassis. Do you know if the LGT's universal has the rubber dampener, or is it solid like the STi's? Remember the development cycles go Legacy first, then Impreza, then Forester. So, the GH chassis was developed after the BH/BL but before the BR/BM. I call my GH8 a short-wheelbase 4.5 generation LGT. Same basic powertrain as the 4th, just a different turbo. Same front suspension. I am running Konis for a 4th gen on mine as they fit right up. Same steering, cross member etc. Same downpipes, intakes, intercoolers all fit. Moving rearwards it gets newer. Same basic rear suspension as the BR/BM chassis, same rear subframe, links etc. but just the shocks are a different length then the GH and GR items. Same rear brake fitments as the 5th gen... I'm using the BR9 vented disks on mine, and the calipers were a direct fit, but I'm using some adapters and the old FHI 2-pots... Lego. Yes, the UJ has the rubber parts like the GH8 and SG9 do. GR STi ones do not. A friend fitted the GR item to his SJ9... he said it increased feedback (for better or for worse) but not response. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcteryx Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yes, the UJ has the rubber parts like the GH8 and SG9 do. GR STi ones do not. A friend fitted the GR item to his SJ9... he said it increased feedback (for better or for worse) but not response. So the STi UJ should also be directly swappable with the BL/BP unit? Excellent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 AFAIK, yes Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camber Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Hmmmm.... STI steering rack doesn't seem to be that expensive. Subaru Part# 34110VA120 $641 @ http://www.flatironstuning.com/p-2633-2015-sti-steering-rack.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Thinking of picking one of these up to go in my LGT and swapping my GT rack over to my OBXT. Looks like I can provide them for the same cost as Flatirons as well. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Thinking of picking one of these up to go in my LGT and swapping my GT rack over to my OBXT. Looks like I can provide them for the same cost as Flatirons as well. Any idea what would be needed to swap that into an Outback? My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Well I'm not 100% since I haven't done it yet, but my understanding is that when I remove the body lift I will either need to put in the LGT u-joint with the OBXT rack or keep the OBXT u-joint with an LGT rack. I believe the difference in the splined input shaft length is what causes this. New LGT u-joints are expensive (north of $100 IIRC) so IMO you are better off putting that towards the quicker rack. I'm not sure how the OBXT u-joint will work with the LGT rack and the body lift in place. Of course my OBXT-sized tires may rub once I have that much steering angle, so we'll see how that goes. Worst case I will swap out the final drive in the trans and rear diff and run LGT-sized rubber, but that is looking down the road a ways. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I was super unclear - I meant any idea if the STI will swap into an OBXT? Or does the same comment apply? I think my tires rub ever so slightly at full lock in the fender liner (and I am a quarter of an inch higher than a Legacy) also do you have pictures of your cars up? hmm my Honda Fit's rack is 12.8 - having a 13 in my Outback would be crazy. My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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