deimos Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Just checked out the newest (May) SPEED magazine from Road & Track. Near the end they have a feature on the LGT, they added 18" rims with stickier tires and some strut bars (and brakes from the STi) and they got a 5.5 to 60 and 14.1 in the 1/4. Its also pulled a 0.91 G on the skidpad, higher than the 0.88 they got with the Sti (!), and resulted in lower stopping times. They say "with a hundred more hp the LGT could go from a 330i killer to an M3 abuser" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAckhouse1 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 nice. what do you think of speed magazine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 So, can anyone scan the article and post it - Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobY Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 OMG WTF!!!!!! You mean the tires we have are crap?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 The only thing I question is the skidpad numbers. OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteNJ Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Did they give any braking performance numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobY Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Skidpad and braking numbers are always questionable. They both rely on the inconsistent interface between the rubber and the road. One set of tires can do phenomenal one day and crapier another depending on the type of surface. Unless you are talking about RE-92's they seem to be consistently crappy in my experience. But it is not rocket science to realize that increasing the friction between the rubber and the road will increase lateral G handling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deimos Posted April 26, 2005 Author Share Posted April 26, 2005 SPEED mag is pretty good, I like it...Yeah I hear what your saying re: the skidpad numbers but thats what they got in at least one instance, stopping distance was also reduced a nice bit. (I forgot they also put in STi brakes....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Skidpad and braking numbers are always questionable. They both rely on the inconsistent interface between the rubber and the road. One set of tires can do phenomenal one day and crapier another depending on the type of surface. Unless you are talking about RE-92's they seem to be consistently crappy in my experience. But it is not rocket science to realize that increasing the friction between the rubber and the road will increase lateral G handling. Oh I know....thats why I question them. Is it a consistent .91 or a one time shot that almost sent the car into a spin? Thats all. If they got the LGT to hit .91 I'd like to see what they got the Rx-8 and S2000 to hit. OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobY Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Im just making random comments... not being argumentative. But 0.91 is phenomenal. Stock rubber would NEVER be able to pull that off not on the dryest, warmest day of the season driving over a crazy glue spill. NEVER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Anyone want to be so kind and scan the article - Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deimos Posted April 26, 2005 Author Share Posted April 26, 2005 Anyone want to be so kind and scan the article - Mike FYI I read it in the store...so sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Im just making random comments... not being argumentative. But 0.91 is phenomenal. Stock rubber would NEVER be able to pull that off not on the dryest, warmest day of the season driving over a crazy glue spill. NEVER! That is higher than the 8 and S2000. Not likely.....they must have had great conditions considering when they put the LGT up against the TXS they both were below .80? OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobY Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Really depends on the surface. Chasis design nowadays focuses more on making the best use of the tires because they are the weakest link in any car. Body roll reduction, lowering, chaisis stiffening is all done to make the car transfer the most inertia in the most predictable manner possible to the 4 round rubber things. Inherently there is nothing wrong with the LGT chasis that would prevent it from pull high G forces. The LGT chasis compared to other cars is already pretty darn stiff. Contrary to popular beleif there is nothing wrong with a MCPhearson Stut design with a rear multilink. The BMW M3 has followed the same philosophy for YEARS over 3 generations and felt no reason to change. Double wishbone suspensions look great on paper, and the design principles theoretically hold water... but in reality, at least in watered down production car form, they really arent significantly better than well designed McPhearson Systems. Its not like OMG the S4 handles so much better than the M3 cause the M3 uses an "outdated" McPhearson setup. Its actually the contrary... It really all boils down to how the suspension is set up and more importantly how efficent the suspension is at using th 4 black things on the corner of your car. When push comes to shove the legacy IS a bigger car and it FEELS less tossable but it dosent mean that it cant produce good numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKLGT Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 was that this months issue? i may have to check that out. Wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle yeah!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Track Rebel Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 That is higher than the 8 and S2000. Not likely.....they must have had great conditions considering when they put the LGT up against the TXS they both were below .80? AWD cars are inherently better than 2WD on the skidpad. Tires also make a huge difference. A race tire (Hoosier, Victoracer, etc.) on an LGT would probably push skidpad numbers closer to 1g. High skidpad numbers don't always translate to better handling anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o- c-uTe Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Anyone want to be so kind and scan the article - Mike Here you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o- c-uTe Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Here are the other two pages. I am go to try to fix the size so your can read it from this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgarath Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Here are the other two pages. I am go to try to fix the size so your can read it from this site. You could always upload the images to http://www.imageshack.ws/ if you're feeling generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o- c-uTe Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I give up. I can't figure it out. They are to big. Someone else is going to just have to post it or find the article online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 would page size PDFs be too big to attach to this thread? I will probably buy the magazine for this article when I get to the news stand, so I'll see if I can get some PDF files generated, if they won't be too huge, and if people are interested. I want to see what they did with the WRX STi's brakes, and if it was effective, and if it costs less than the $3k+ of having the Legacy STi shelf parts imported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o- c-uTe Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 what is the max file size I can put up on this site? I was just at there WEB SITE and I like it. It's pretty cool. Check out there times on all these CARS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I was able to find out that the PDF max size is 250k. JPG limit is 160.2k I just tried to attach some monsterously huge files, and got the error messages that detailed the limits. PDF and JPG were the only two file extensions I tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tide Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I like speed, wish they had subscription offered. Do they yet? *Edit - They do now. Woot. Another car mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slickvic Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Dont forget to enter to win the LGT project car: http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=1984&page_number=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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