RadoGT Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 Check it out. Looks like Subaru wants to get into the diesel mix. I wonder how long until they make it to the states! http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/news-story.jsp?news_id=16472 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 Old news, and don't hold your breath for a US version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMTNLegacy Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 The d-engine would be cool to have in the states i think it would sell well but who know what will happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STG Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 "Make no mistake - diesels are comming to America." Ikuo Mori - President Fuji Heavy Industries, Ltd. Autoweek article: http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070306/FREE/70305003&SearchID=73275631572545 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubiedoobiedoo Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 yes, they are coming. we've loosely heard a target of 2010, but nothing official. should hear more on this in a year from now. legacy and outback get full re-designs in 09 as 2010 MYs. it's possible that they may not longer share the same platform. a lot can happen in 3 years...i would think the impreza/forester would be first with the diesel to compete w/ rabbit/golf/jetta. but, now that honda is going accord diesel. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMTNLegacy Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 i have a feeling that every comp. will soon end up with diesel engine at least as an option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I would like to see more diesels available, although a 4 cylinder diesel doesn't do much for me. Now a H6 turbo diesel making around 250-270hp and 400+lb-ft would kick ass and could still get high 30's low 40's on the highway (all the driving I do anymore). I am just waiting for a turbo diesel to make it into a 1/2 ton truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I drove my first diesel two weeks ago. It was a 24 foot Box truck powered by a GMC Duramax engine. It certianly didn't move very fast from a stand still, but push that pedal down while rolling and it had some thrust to it. 300 miles, avg. 9.5 MPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 my older bro has a MB E-class turbo diesel ('06). what a dream on the open road! it's become my target car after my LGT gets long in the tooth. i'm way out of my depth . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I drove my first diesel two weeks ago. It was a 24 foot Box truck powered by a GMC Duramax engine. It certianly didn't move very fast from a stand still, but push that pedal down while rolling and it had some thrust to it. 300 miles, avg. 9.5 MPG. Considering it was more than likely bone stock and stuck in a big old box truck 9.5 MPG isn't too bad. When I moved to South Dakota land we used about a 15 foot (I think) box truck powered by a 6.0L GM gasser. It got a whopping 6.5 MPG, and couldn't get out of it's own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Considering it was more than likely bone stock and stuck in a big old box truck 9.5 MPG isn't too bad. When I moved to South Dakota land we used about a 15 foot (I think) box truck powered by a 6.0L GM gasser. It got a whopping 6.5 MPG, and couldn't get out of it's own way. Yeah, we wondering what would have happened if it weren't a diesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 “Would you be willing to pay an extra $2,000 for a diesel-powered minivan?” asked Ralph Gilles, Chrysler's vice president of design. Chrysler could consider subsidizing the cost of the diesel power train for the first couple years for the purpose of establishing its diesel reputation and to help seed the market for the cars. Giving away cars for less than it costs to build them sounds like a recipe for failure, but Toyota used this strategy quite effectively to bootstrap the hybrid market. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20424823/page/2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Yeah, we wondering what would have happened if it weren't a diesel. On a 24 foot box truck with a gasser you would have had the pleasure of: getting less than 6 MPG, overtaxing the cooling system (in summer conditions), and having very questionable on road performance. It could have made for a really really lousy trip (well if anything can be worse than driving a damn loaded box truck). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE_1985 Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 I am just waiting for a turbo diesel to make it into a 1/2 ton truck toyota did that already in the 80s, they are really rare though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 toyota did that already in the 80s, they are really rare though Yet Toyota seems to be last in line to do it again. GM is introducing a 4.5L V8 turbo diesel for '09 in the 1/2 tons. Dodge has a 5.6L V8 Cummins lined up for '09 1/2 tons. Ford is developing a 4.4L V8 diesel for the F-150, also for '09. Even Nissan is working on a diesel for the Titan, sourcing the engine form International (manufacturer of the Ford Powerstroke diesel that is a POS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE_1985 Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 well car wise i mainly know about yotas and scoobys, moreso yotas. toyota waits for everyone to release there balls to the wall,new,wrold changing automobile blah blah blah..........and 1 ups them they have been doing so since the early 80s.....now they are going fullsize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 well car wise i mainly know about yotas and scoobys, moreso yotas. toyota waits for everyone to release there balls to the wall,new,wrold changing automobile blah blah blah..........and 1 ups them they have been doing so since the early 80s.....now they are going fullsize Toyota never a leader, always a follower it seems. The one tech they lead in is the one that is the most worthless to me: hybrids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeB Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 the subaru diesel boxer engine will be a 2.0l - 150bhp 350nm 150g/km emissions. it will be introduced on the legacy and will be available IN EUROPE in february 2008 if you ask me at least 200 bhp would have been needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE_1985 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 its a DIESEL engine......its supposed to make torque not hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 its a DIESEL engine......its supposed to make torque not hp Yeah, 150 is good for something that is intended to be economical. So much better than a 90 hp Jetta TDI. Ick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeB Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 the rumors went that a 3.0 H6 diesel will be also developed starting from this 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzyss Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 BMW 2 liter diesel makes 161 hp and 251 lb-ft (340Nm) (120d and 320d). It seems that just introduced BMW 123d is also 2 liter diesel. It makes 204 hp and 295lb-ft. http://www.topspeed.com/cars/bmw/bmw-123d-ar38598.html http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=121452 http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/about/news/0,,___,00.html Warning. Edmunds 54mpg forgets to mention that these are imperial galons and not US ones. Krzys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 the rumors went that a 3.0 H6 diesel will be also developed starting from this 2.0 Seems highly unlikely that they would amke a 6 cylinder diesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeB Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_0BpgSFJM0] press conference [/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeB Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 BMW 2 liter diesel makes 161 hp and 251 lb-ft (340Nm) (120d and 320d). It seems that just introduced BMW 123d is also 2 liter diesel. It makes 204 hp and 295lb-ft. http://www.topspeed.com/cars/bmw/bmw-123d-ar38598.html http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=121452 http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/about/news/0,,___,00.html Warning. Edmunds 54mpg forgets to mention that these are imperial galons and not US ones. Krzys ouch ... subaru should move it up a little bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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