skatenation Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 The last few days I've been having some starting issues on my 98 LGT. I noticed this yesterday, get in the car put my foot on the clutch and turn key, radio starts up, dash lights are on but the engine doesn't turn over. I took my foot off of the clutch and re-attempted pushed harder at a few different angles. Same deal this morning and this afternoon. Anyone got any ideas? bad starter? bad clutch? I have no idea. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyposeur Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Check the ground to the starter. Wiggle the terminals on your battery. Do you hear the starter click? How old is the battery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooln30 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Ground to the starter? The starter is grounded buy it being bolted to the trans. There's a little wire which is the signal wire from the ignition switch and a larger cable which come from the battery. First check the connections at the battery then the ones at the starter. If all checks out then get a test light and see if your getting positive power to the starter via that larger cable. If good then you'll need a friend for this next one. Also using a test light, while turning the key like your starting it, see if your getting a positive signal from that little wire if you do then its the starter if not then it could be your ignition switch or the clutch safety switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickTej22 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Mine was a mystery, my cable end was corroded inside, caused the same symptoms, didn't even look bad but it was. Sent from my HTC One V using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sludgeroo Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Spooln nailed it, if it makes a rapid clicking while attempting to turn over that's your starter, shake it down, but mine did the exact thing yours is and I was the clutch switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisty Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 mine did the exact thing yours is and I was the clutch switch. this was my first thought as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecBamf41 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 cant you bypass the switch and then just depend on the neutral safety switch? idk much about it cause i never had any safety switches BNR18g on 93oct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sludgeroo Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 cant you bypass the switch and then just depend on the neutral safety switch? idk much about it cause i never had any safety switches Considering all those switches are is a check for a complete circuit I don't see why not. They probably do something to that effect when they put automatic car starters in. And that's because your wagon isn't safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisty Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 you could jumper the wires at the switch if you wanted to, but remember that your car will still try to start when in gear and clutch not engaged. could be dangerous when not paying attention... my old scout had no switch, i almost launched it through my apt door a few times early in the morning. for auto trans there is (should be) a P-N switch it looks for, to ensure its not in gear before allowing a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diagtech Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Doesn't anyone know how to jump a starter motor to check it? While in park/neutral take a wire, connect it to the main battery lead on the starter and touch it to the trigger lead on the solenoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooln30 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 cant you bypass the switch and then just depend on the neutral safety switch? idk much about it cause i never had any safety switches Since his car is a 5spd it doesn't have a neutral safety switch. Auto-NSS, 5spd-Clutch switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skatenation Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 The battery is pretty new, left the car at my moms this summer and the battery apparently died at some point and she jump started it. . .crossed the cables...fryed the battery and a few other things. So, new battery this past summer. Didn't experience the problem at all today, how ever I did notice a slight humming coming from what seemed to be the alternator. Don't know if this could be related. So as of right now its still a mystery, clutch switch sounds like it could be winner - My car seems to be at the stage where a new (usually minor) issue arises weekly and sometimes daily. Also, no clicking, no nothing when this occuring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooln30 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 If there's no clicking the I would lean towards a bad or loose connection, bad ignition switch or a bad clutch switch. Like I said before to rule out the ignition switch have a friend try to start it while you use a test light and check for a positive power signal at the starter from the small single wire. No then it's the ignition switch if yes then probably the clutch switch. GL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyWilly Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Hey skate. What was the result. Did u get it resolved. Mine happens to be doing this. The clutch is also going so I'm leaning toward clutch safety switch. I'll check it out this weekend as soon as I found out where it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisty Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 If there's no clicking the I would lean towards a bad or loose connection, bad ignition switch or a bad clutch switch. Like I said before to rule out the ignition switch have a friend try to start it while you use a test light and check for a positive power signal at the starter from the small single wire. No then it's the ignition switch if yes then probably the clutch switch. GL. i thought the clutch switch was a permissive on the starter line to keep it from getting a signal unless the clutch is engaged? i dont think youd get a positive on that line unless both were working. i could be wrong, but it doesnt seem logical to send a signal to the starter without both. mebbe my controls background is getting in the way of the logic tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skatenation Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 Twisty, The car pretty much never had the problem again after my last post here. . .untill yesterday. Yesterday it was the worst is has been yet, so I'm thinking clutch switch. Looking into ordering one now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skatenation Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 whoops that was directed at Phillywilly. ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoltz Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'm having similar problems but it happens randomly, and when I push the clutch and turn the key it clicks once like when your battery is dead. Sometimes if I turn the key a few times (click, click, click, click, click) it will start and shudder for a second then other times I have to wait or just take the other subi Now this only happens maybe once a week but it has left me stranded for a few hours. Oh and I got a new battery and cables and it still happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skatenation Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 UPDATE: I let the issue go to long and now my car is stuck in a business' parking lot a few blocks from my house. Installed the new Neutral Safety Switch in the parking lot and still no dice. Gonna start looking at the starter. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyWilly Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I havent fully fixed my issue yet but after jiggling the wires connecting to the starter, it started up just fine. I just need to find the time on top of 70 hour work weeks to remove the IC and clean/reconnect the wiring to the starter. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyWilly Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 if its a manual you could always just give it a push and pop the clutch to get it home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skatenation Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 Started checking things out, they're is definitely power going to the starter solenoid but I'm not hearing any clicking like a lot of other other people with this issue making me believe its worse than just the solenoid contacts. Does any one have ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemingway Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 if its a manual you could always just give it a push and pop the clutch to get it home When I had a MT car, I used to practice this maneuver in case I ever needed to start it. It's actually fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zues Marine Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 ^...had to park at the top of a slight incline at work in my '91 VW Fox everyday while the legacy was down so i could do that ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyWilly Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I was too broke (and lazy) to replace a battery in college and pushed started my 89 240sx for about 3 months. I would make friends push it to leave college and park at the top of the hill at work to get home. Also did it numerous time in a 92 Escort wagon and 95 Integra sedan. Its nice to have the option and not need a jump! Havent had to resort to it in the leggy yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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