GTEASER Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Thanks for the offer Zee. ChrisCrash PM'ed me and he has one. I'm trying to get he and dgoodhue to meet up since they are both in MA. If we can keep it to one package going to Koni, that would be ideal. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootyologist Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Nice work, Teaser! I wonder how long development/production would take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Nice work, Teaser! I wonder how long development/production would take. I personally have verified that the stampings for the spring perches are all the same for the 08-10 WRX, 11-14 WRX, and 10-14 Legacy, so Koni has that. The Legacy shares the same lower mount stamping as the 08-10 WRX, so Koni already has that too. The brake line mounts are all the same. The only difference between the WRX and Legacy other than perch height, and possibly overall strut tube length, is the wheel speed sensor mount. So essentially, it wouldn't take much for Koni to use existing parts from their parts bins to produce a Legacy strut, they just need to justify it with market capture. I believe the 11-14 WRX will require them to make different lower mounts (deeper because widebody WRX) but they can probably easily justify that tooling cost with the massive market they could capture. I will keep you guys updated. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Email officially sent to my contact at Koni with contact information for those with the struts being donated to this effort. Thanks to dgoodhue, ChrisCrash, and darkstarmoto over on NASIOC, for donating their old OEM stuff. I will update everyone as soon as I hear from Koni. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhiaAddict Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 You need the bump stop and upper spring seat also. Just want to confirm. I already have the bump stops. So I need to order: 2x 20326AA000 Front Spacer 2x 20323AG00B Front Spring Seat 2x 20375FG000 Rear Spring Insulator Anything else? I want to place order as soon as possible so I can try to install these this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) Just make sure you have everything in these 2 diagrams. Front. (strut>spring>bumpstop>dustcover>upperseat>spacer>tophat) http://parts.subaru.com/a/Subaru_2010_Legacy36L-5AT-4WDR-Premium-Sedan/_54106_6025246/FRONT-SHOCK-ABSORBER/B14-210-01.html   Rear. (shock>spring>bumpstop>dustcover>isolator>tophat) http://parts.subaru.com/a/Subaru_2010_Legacy36L-5AT-4WDR-Premium-Sedan/_54106_6029004/REAR-SHOCK-ABSORBER/B14-211-01.html Edited January 31, 2017 by GTEASER GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) Good News!!! From the email I just received back this afternoon from the Koni NA Product Manager. As of this afternoon, I was able to get my European counterpart to reactivate the 8610 1453SPORT for production in The Netherlands and I am having it reactivated in the US computer so we can get a production run on order for production. That will be faster for the 11-14 WRX and the Legacy folks to get something going ASAP in the interim rather than waiting for a new full strut to be designed, tested, production engineered, produced, etc. Edited February 1, 2017 by GTEASER GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrstacy Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 ^ a company that listens. that almost never happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhiaAddict Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Just make sure you have everything in these 2 diagrams. Front. (strut>spring>bumpstop>dustcover>upperseat>spacer>tophat) http://parts.subaru.com/a/Subaru_2010_Legacy36L-5AT-4WDR-Premium-Sedan/_54106_6025246/FRONT-SHOCK-ABSORBER/B14-210-01.html   Rear. (shock>spring>bumpstop>dustcover>isolator>tophat) http://parts.subaru.com/a/Subaru_2010_Legacy36L-5AT-4WDR-Premium-Sedan/_54106_6029004/REAR-SHOCK-ABSORBER/B14-211-01.html Okay with the parts I listed I will have all that. What were the dome washers you spoke of? Are they the same as the spacer or isolator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Okay with the parts I listed I will have all that. What were the dome washers you spoke of? Are they the same as the spacer or isolator? yes. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee199969 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Good News!!! From the email I just received back this afternoon from the Koni NA Product Manager. Sweet! So they will also warranty the inserts/shocks with the legacy application? When I thought I had a blown strut and contacted them about a replacement, they said that since I used it on a legacy and not 08-14 WRX, that they would not be able to offer a free replacement. This was about a year ago My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhiaAddict Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 yes. You DA MAN!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy.B Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 http://i.imgur.com/PRoYVy9.gif Timothy.B's 2011 LEGACY 3.6R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cww516 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 And it's not even about the Dacia Sandero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrxwhit Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 These guys going in today on Whit's Wed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootyologist Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 These guys going in today on Whit's Wed Just curious, what type of spring compressor are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrxwhit Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I usually use a wall mounted one at work but in haste and as I wouldn't be able to drive the struts to work today I overnighted this one from Amazon, worked like a charm, very sturdy and secure ABN MacPherson Strut Spring Compressor https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SX5RSA4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_-gGKyb73MC17H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Dammit whit! Aren't you done yet? GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrxwhit Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I've been done Tease, been busy around the house and gathering up kids at school. Will update soon, wow what a DIFFERENCE!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrstacy Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 These guys going in today on Whit's Wed I didn't know you could jack the car up there. I usually do it where the jack stand is and have a tough time getting the stand in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrxwhit Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 So first thing guys, DONT FORGET THE WASHER'S!!! I didn't realize how bad this was until after installing.  After initial install without washers, the springs were immediately binding as the top hat was unable to rotate properly on the spring seat. It did get slightly better after a day of driving but what a horrible experience. The car just would not steer ahead especially after making a turn and the steering wheel would dive left and right. Also steering was very inconsistent and more resisting.  Went at it again this am and removed both struts in 15 min, getting real good at it. Broke out the Amazon overnighted spring compressor as this was an urgent situation. Was hoping to not find any damage upon removal which there was not but mount bearing was scratched as well as top of spring seat, no big deal. Reinstalled with conical washer rounded side up sitting on mount bearing and flat side down laying flush on spring seat. Tightened down 19mm nut and could now spin the top mount with ease as before was difficult to spin. Reinstalled, torqued down wheels and ready to rip. Immediately noticed steering was 10x better just sitting in the garage moving freely with no chance of binding.  Ok onto first "official" test drive. First thought, I wish these were available in 2012 when I had installed the BC coils. The BC's were so bad towards the end I contemplated selling the car looking into Audi S models lol! As suggested, breaking in the KONIS on the softest setting then adjust to driving needs. These H&R springs perfectly compliment the KONI Sport's. Uneven surfaces are no problem and car stays planted straight down the road. Two streets away from my home there is a good size dip in the road and had to creep past it with the BC's or the car would feel like it was gonna take off into space. Excited to put the KONIS with H&R's to the test. Maintained 40mph speed and started gritting my teeth. Front end dipped into the dip of death and then the rear followed. Wow, the front and rear of the car worked very well together to keep the car planted and absorbed most of the dip. These KONIS have very impressive travel as Tease stated at least an 1" more than stock if I'm not mistaken. If I hit the dip of death at 40 with the BC's, the car would nose dive then the rear would catapult resulting in driver smashing head on ceiling, just horrible.  Couldn't really test it in the corners as Blizzak snows are installed but will get better driving impressions in the Spring. The KONI/H&R 3.6 option assembly's brought the car back to life again. It truly is amazing what good suspension can do and bring a smile back to your face. Thank you all for talking me into it and couldn't be happier. A perfect setup for Massachusetts and shitty roads in general. Very exciting that KONI may make these exclusively for the 5th gens, but for now, the WRX with 3/8" spacer work perfect!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootyologist Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 So first thing guys So how did you attach the abs sensor cable and brake lines? My noisy Koni inserts are driving me absolutely insane. I'm contemplating getting the WRX struts or holding out for a legacy specific version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrxwhit Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Quite simply, tucked wire behind abs bracket and zip tied it loosely so it can move with the strut. Very effective for now. The brake line bolts right up just like oem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootyologist Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Oh man, I'd be paranoid that the vibrating cable on the metal bracket would eat through the cable jacket and cause some issues. I'm going to tear the struts apart when it warms up and make sure there isn't any play in the bolt holding the insert into the donor. Also might replace the kyb mounts with OEM even though they're brand new. End links have just been replaced, still rattles.  My independent mechanic and Subaru have both looked at the car. They both say the rest of the suspension is fine and they can't find where the rattles are coming from. Much frustration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrxwhit Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Subaru are supposed to rattle you didn't know!! JK, I feel your pain, noises suck and when you can only here them while moving, difficult to diagnose. I'll fab up a bracket that will screw into WRX bracket to safely move the wire away from the strut, very temporary solution for now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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