Thetoad Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Ill attempt to make this quick.. As you know sometimes changes,,,yes all sorts of changes are required by the manufactures sometimes mile demanded and others time and or miles accrued ,,in this case plugs. My 06 has only 25k on it but as far as years go,,somewhat aplenty.It was equipped with platinum plugs but just wonder about their long time lap endurance. As in most subarus,,, engineers spent most of their waking and designing hours as how to make simple part replacement an impossibility or at the very least inaccessible and they more than succeeded in just checking the oil pan as well. Bear in mind my parking area which is assigned is small and when coupled with no tools that's the position I'm in. I fly model helicopters 450 class and I have the same problems after a crash,,,but poor eyesight working with screws and bolts barely visible is my problem there..able to effect some repairs but they both have proven to be a bitch... Recommendations.....I'm all ears.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTris Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Am I to assume you want to have your spark plugs changed? You can do it yourself with some fairly basic tools that you can pick up just about anywhere that sells tools, and the job can be done in a parking space. If your eyes aren't up to it, perhaps you have a nephew with small-ish hands who'd like to learn about basic maintenance? You'll need these, which, IIRC, are the stock replacement plugs: [ame=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001MU5JKI/ref=oh_details_o02_s01_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1]Amazon.com: NGK (7913) SILFR6A Laser Iridium Spark Plug, Pack of 1: Automotive[/ame] Get four. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Prime is the shiznit. If you don't have it, you should get it. Worth. Every. Penny. You'll need a 5/8ths(?) Spark Plug socket in 3/8ths drive, and either a u-jointed socket wrench, or one with a flex/swivel/articulation in it. Also a 10mm socket to remove the bolts on the coilpacks. You can do this, it's pretty basic. I assume the actual task is fairly self-explanatory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thetoad Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 I bought those very same iridium plugs and then asked a mechanic to replace them for me,,,he quit after a half hour,,,, I'm not saying he was incompetent but,,,,,but,,he was incompetent. It's just that these plugs on the turbo 2.5's are not easy to get to like,,like my 71 Karman Ghia.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm25rs Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Here's a walkthrough with lots of pictures: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/spark-plug-install-instructions-12070.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted June 28, 2014 Moderators Share Posted June 28, 2014 Helpful post from MrTris is helpful Toad, take it to a Subaru shop. It'll cost you about $150. No biggie. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRM Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Alot has changed sense 71. I have to change/check my plugs often in the old carb cars I own. Hence they're easy to get to for the service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BX77 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Toad go to AZP in NJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTris Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Helpful post from MrTris is helpful Thanks, Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thetoad Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 Thanks for all the suggestions,,and by the way my local sube dealership wanted $ 250.00 for a plug change. I've decided to have all my work done at AZP .... The changes in car maintenance has not really been incremental it's been in quantum leaps as manufactures did everything they possibly could to make you come to a dealership where a total hosing is what could be expected. Again thanks,,but I wonder is it just subaru who makes routine maintenance difficult or is it widespread.I always gave sube the benefit of the doubt because of their insistence of AWD on all it's vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-2 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Honda/Toyota are not nearly as hard or stupid to work on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted June 30, 2014 Moderators Share Posted June 30, 2014 Routine maintenance on these cars isn't difficult, IMO. oil changes, diff fluid changes, brakes, etc--all exactly the same as other cars. Spark plugs are slightly more difficult that a motor that has plugs right on top, but seriously they're not that difficult with a handful of extensions and universal joints for your socket set. Definitely wouldn't say the REQUIRE a trip to the dealer. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Bingo, AZP is the place to go. Let us know if Mike recommends changing the plugs. Only 25k...I'd leave them in there. It's the old timing belt you might want to spend money on... 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I recently did my 90K service (Plugs, Coolant, fluids and belts) the worst part was burping the system I have a set of swivel head ratchet wrenches makes short work of the driver side rear (Cyl 3) I had to remove the air pump duct but thats minor. Ive done plugs on a EJ255 3 times now (05 LGT, 10 WRX, my 09 LGT) I have to agree they arent that bad as you may hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibr_adam09 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I went from 3 hours to 40 minutes doing plugs on these cars. and I think you mean cylinder 4^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I went from 3 hours to 40 minutes doing plugs on these cars. and I think you mean cylinder 4^ no 3 4 is under the turbo no problems for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm25rs Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I thought this was the cylinder numbering: http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/attachments/f66/1248d1145383135-cylinder-numbering-2.5l-n-scheme.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Well damn I stand corrected I feel so lost now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 FWIW, Bank 1 is 1 & 3 Bank 2 is 2 & 4 You'll be happy you know that when you get the CEL... 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTris Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I thought this was the cylinder numbering: http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/attachments/f66/1248d1145383135-cylinder-numbering-2.5l-n-scheme.gif FWIW, Bank 1 is 1 & 3 Bank 2 is 2 & 4 You'll be happy you know that when you get the CEL... If that infographic is correct, then how does 4 starve for fuel if, according to the diagram it's closest to the fuel lines as they enter the engine bay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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