Zee199969 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Was lookin at these, do 2015s work? My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 The rotors won't work unless you have them dual drilled to 5x100. $2000 for just the calipers seems a little steep. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee199969 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Has anyone ran the Subaru 4pot fronts and 2pot rears on a 5th gen? Saw this on fredbeans: http://www.fredbeansparts.com/subaru-wrx-4-pot-2-pot-brake-conversion-kit.html The KNS caliper adapters for the rears would be needed and I'm assuming new rotors as well? My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I wouldn't bother. Your stock GT rotors and calipers are bigger and probably better than those. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee199969 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) Thanks Joe, saves me some time and money due to trial and error Edited May 21, 2015 by Zee199969 My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcg_ Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 FWIW, I just bought on craigslist a used set of STI Gold Brembos (front and rear) with used rotors and pads (with life) for $800. I have always wanted to rebuild some brakes - should be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apexofthevortex Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Will the OEM rims fit over these or am I gonna have to get bigger rims along with the new brakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) Will the OEM rims fit over these or am I gonna have to get bigger rims along with the new brakes? You got a 2012 LGT, correct? You will need minimum of 17mm spacers. The OEM 18" wheel hoops clear the Brembos, but the spokes will not mostly because of their offset. You either need different wheels or these, 4 of them. Edited August 3, 2015 by GTEASER GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apexofthevortex Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Thanks for the quick response teaser. Yeah I have a 2012 I really wanna do this before I go stage 2 because I've got 75k on my car and the stock brakes are gonna be cashed in about a year at most so I'll need to replace them. I know if I go stage 2 first and replace the brakes with OEMs I'll end up regretting it. Now I just need to decide whether to slowly start getting the brakes and suspension ready for stage 2 or to save up for a while and just do it all at once. For the record do the spacers in that link come with all four corners for 128 or are they 128 each? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee199969 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I'm gonna attempt to enable, and suggest wider wheels over going with spacers My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutchard Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 For the record do the spacers in that link come with all four corners for 128 or are they 128 each? looks like they sell them in pairs, so you'd need two of the sets in that link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apexofthevortex Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Haha every time I log on I find something new I wanna do if my wallet had emotions it would hate this site, but yeah that's pretty much what I'm thinking especially if the spacers are 128 a piece. If I wait to do everything at once it'll probably cost me as much as a down payment on a new car. Of course I would never get rid of my GT there really is something special about these 5th gens that I just cant put my finger on. What size and offset rim would I need? Anyone got any recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee199969 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Haha every time I log on I find something new I wanna do if my wallet had emotions it would hate this site, but yeah that's pretty much what I'm thinking especially if the spacers are 128 a piece. If I wait to do everything at once it'll probably cost me as much as a down payment on a new car. Of course I would never get rid of my GT there really is something special about these 5th gens that I just cant put my finger on. What size and offset rim would I need? Anyone got any recommendations? From this link: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D2239019&ved=0CBwQFjAAahUKEwi5wPDcuY3HAhWHjQ0KHVS5Ajw&usg=AFQjCNGqgV0RUSbvFmPhDQkRgC91xXyWFw&sig2=JJxPCz0VyLDFCHuSgRD1_A, it seems the 2008-14 Stis run 18x8.5 +55 to clear brembos My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apexofthevortex Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Don't our Legacies have a 5x100 bolt pattern and those 08 plus STI rims have a 5x114? If that the case wouldn't I need spacers for those anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 FWIW, the stock GT brakes are pretty good. I track my car with the stock rotors and calipers and use Carbotech pads. I have used XP12 and XP8. They are dusty, but they do a helluva good job of stopping the car and the stock rotors are stout. I run rear STi Brembos and those will clear the stock wheels just fine. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee199969 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Don't our Legacies have a 5x100 bolt pattern and those 08 plus STI rims have a 5x114? If that the case wouldn't I need spacers for those anyway? That is correct that the STIs run a 5x114.3 bolt pattern vs our 5x100. I was just using their specs as reference as to what wheel diameter, width and offset might fit. Not 100% sure but would a difference in bolt pattern but with same specs otherwise possibly cause a conflict with brembo clearance? My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apexofthevortex Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 FWIW, the stock GT brakes are pretty good. I track my car with the stock rotors and calipers and use Carbotech pads. I have used XP12 and XP8. They are dusty, but they do a helluva good job of stopping the car and the stock rotors are stout. I run rear STi Brembos and those will clear the stock wheels just fine. Do you think stage 2 power levels will wear the stocks out faster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellesedil Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Don't our Legacies have a 5x100 bolt pattern and those 08 plus STI rims have a 5x114? If that the case wouldn't I need spacers for those anyway? He's not recommending that you get rims from an STI. He's giving you the wheels specs that the STI run because they clear Brembos and you can then find any wheels of your choosing that run a similar spec. (Edit: beaten to the punch) Often times, aftermarket wheels that are compatible with big breaks will often say as much. For example: http://www.wedswheelsna.com/weds/wedssport/tc105n/ TC-105N is designed to accommodate many big-brake kits on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Do you think stage 2 power levels will wear the stocks out faster? It depends only on your use of Stage2 with your right foot. Get going fast, gotta haul it down fast. As long as your brakes are working well and you have enough rotor left, just put some new pads on there (and new OEM rotors if necessary), Hawk HPS or something, and enjoy. Also do a full fluid flush and brake bleed. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcg_ Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) FWIW, I have been pursuing a Brembo upgrade for a few months now, have made plenty of mistakes, and intend to share write-up will upon completion. That being said, here is my advice. Unless you are buying new Brembos, rockauto.com sells the cheapest, most complete (but refurbished) Brembos around (new pads, new seals, new hardware, new paint, etc.). It is very, very, frick'n very unlikely that you'll be able to buy a used pair of Brembos--let alone refurbish a used pair--for less than what you pay at rockauto. The only issue is availability of rockauto.com, but if you diligently search the part numbers every day, I suspect you can get a complete set in less than a month. The part numbers are as follows: Fronts (each is about $244): 14247040, 14247039 Rears (08+) (each is about $217): 14247532, 14247531 Rears (07-) (each is about $182): 14247517, 14247518 (these require adapter brackets from KNS - $250 for both) In other words, for roughly $900, you can get a complete set of refurb'd Brembos, and the only thing you need after that is rotors ($400 or so)..... EDIT: It has been brought to my attention my reputable folks on the forum that the "Brembos" sold on rockauto.com may not be genuine Brembos. Or, you can choose the route I chose along with a seemingly endless line of ignorant Subaru owners, which is as follows: (1) Scour NASIOC, craigslist, etc. for a "good" deal of used Brembos (I paid $800 but they came with rotors, pads, and older WRX adapter brackes I could sell -- what a deal! note the sarcasm). (2) Tear apart the Brembos (because you/I don't trust the seller--because why would you trust anybody who is selling Brembos out of a trunk in a parking lot), strip the paint of the Brembos. (3) Spend hours scouring the internet for the cheapest, reliable rebuild parts/kits such as, e.g., bleeders, bleeder caps, seals, boots, crossover O-rings, etc. (at least $100 when everything is said and done -- BTW, rockauto.com has the cheapest parts by-far) (3.5) Endlessly debate and shop around for wheels spacers, new rims, new tires, etc. FWIW, it is pretty easy to find cheap WRX rims that'll fit Brembos with a 3mm spacer (which probably don't need new studs) (4) Find a competent powdercoater, and get brakes coated ($150). (5) Realize that you might as well buy new front rotors since you need to buy new rear rotors to fit over the parking brake ($400), buy new pads because you need new pads for your new rotors (at least $100). (6) Buy SS brake lines because you're already losing your ass (the Mach V ones are hella-nice - $120). (7) Realize that the rotors are hardly bigger than the stock LGT rotors and cry yourself to sleep at night. (8) Show off your sweet blue Brembos at subie meets, drink booze with others who followed your same Brembo path, share each other's pain.... (9) Justify the madness by telling others that "you always wanted to learn exactly how brakes work." (10) Go back to step (7). Edited February 3, 2016 by mcg_ Grammar & New info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 ^^sounds like some good advice from a hard learned lesson... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apexofthevortex Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I really appreciate all the info guys. I've got some thinking to do before I make any big decisions but I've got way more to go off of now than I did this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcg_ Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 ^^sounds like some good advice from a hard learned lesson... I just always wanted to learn exactly how brakes work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 ^^I am sure there are some great vids on youtube that cover hydraulics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSniper Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) Just finished my install, this was my parts list to help other people out. GR STI Brembo Calipers KNS 4K Dual Drilled Front and Rear Rotors https://www.knsbrakes.com/c/car-series/1712_2012+Subaru+Impreza+WRX+STI+-+Sedan/364_KNS+Brakes+4K+Rotor+-+2004-2013+Subaru+STI+Front+Rotor+-+Single+Rotor https://www.knsbrakes.com/c/car-series/1712_2012+Subaru+Impreza+WRX+STI+-+Sedan/366_KNS+Brakes+4K+Rotor+-+2008%2B+Subaru+STI+Rear+Rotor+-+Single+Rotor Carbotech 1521 Brake Pads https://www.knsbrakes.com/c/car-series/1712_2012+Subaru+Impreza+WRX+STI+-+Sedan/443_Carbotech+1521 Front Caliper Bolts (Subaru PN 901120103) http://www.oakos.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=355&Product_Code=901120103&Category_Code=12900 Rear Caliper Bolts (Subaru PN 901000326) http://www.oakos.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=355&Product_Code=901000326&Category_Code=12900 Edited August 26, 2015 by DeltaSniper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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