gribs Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Engine died last night. 06 Spec B, about 112k miles. Timing belt/water pump/ clutch/etc done at 90k Short version, driving straight, getting up to speed, figure about 3k rpms in 3rd gear, moderate acceleration. Out of nowhere the engine dies, I dropped into neutral and managed to coast into a parking lot. (power steering died too) Checked all fluids, everything is full and good, engine turns over but wont start. Fuel pump still primes when i turn the ignition to on, battery is fine, and the spark plugs only have about 8k miles on them.. Any ideas on what the problem could be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTris Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Check your grounds? Do you know how to pull the codes? Let me be the first to officially welcome you to owning a turbo Subaru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gribs Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 I've got an accessport (cobb stage 1) and it's saying that there are no codes.. gonna check the grounds and the maf sensor later tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTris Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 MAF will throw a code, but, the grounds will not. Also, check for vac leaks. Commonly, when you're driving along and then it quits suddenly, it's more often than not, a vacuum hose come undone. Don't freak out just yet. There's no such thing as Subaru Instant Death Syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Also check all the fuses and relays. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gribs Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 fuses are good, checked those first thing. whats the easiest way to check the grounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 There's 2 grounds on the bottom of the motor, 1 on each side. They are connected to the valve cover to the frame of the car. If they are still intact, clean them up by sanding the bolt hole area connecting to the frame. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FknBoss Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Best way to test grounds is to add a good big one see if anything changes. Could be the crank sensor. If it sounds normal while cranking then I'd go right to the crank sensor. Pull a coil pack see if you have spark. Engine only needs 3 things. Fuel spark and compression. Fuel pump primes check If it sound normal cranking. Compression check. Only spark left.. Unless you have a massive vacuum leak but you would have thrown a lean code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Maybe timing belt jumped... did you test alternator? It dying randomly and no cels is what's strange to me. Actually probably not alternator... your battery would be dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Yup, check your timing marks to make sure all the marks align up. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gribs Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Got a chance to actually poke around today, put in diagnostic mode by plugging together the green wires under the dash and plugging in my AP. Apparently it's throwing 4 codes P1518 starter switch circuit - low input P0851 neutral switch circuit - low input I think those are coming up because of a low battery P1152 02 sensor circuit range/performance low (bank 1 sensor 1) P1153 02 sensor circuit range/performance high (bank 1 sensor 1) Safe to say that that 02 sensor died and won't let the entire run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Well fix teh battery first as that may clear the rest up. If not then pick up a Denso AFR sensor (front) and go from there. At least its not an issue with the timing work that was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTris Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 OP, you should buy both of these: (Front 02 Sensor) [ame=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001F799X6/ref=oh_details_o00_s01_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1]Amazon.com: Denso 234-9120 Oxygen Sensor (Air and Fuel Ratio Sensor): Automotive[/ame] (Rear sensor (back of DP/Mid) [ame=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CF5ZE4/ref=oh_details_o00_s02_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1]Amazon.com: Bosch 15025 Oxygen Sensor, OE Type Fitment: Automotive[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gribs Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Awesome, thanks. Getting the battery tested tomorrow, failing that I'll try the 02 sensors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FknBoss Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 An 02 won't cause the car to not start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimaira4deth Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Sounds like alternator failure. Check output voltage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gribs Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Alternator and battery are fine. My new O2 sensor came in today, going to install it tomorrow. Did a little poking around, found a broken section of wire (assuming it's a ground wire, flat braided cable, no insulation). One end was attached to the heat shield on the passenger side exhaust, and I have no idea where the other end is. Anybody happen to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 That is the passenger side engine ground. The other side of the cable connects to the frame of the car. Also, check the driver side as well, same setup as the passenger side. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Search for engine grounds. I'll post my picture up when I get home. Grounds go from the heads to the chassis. Just make up new ones, any decent size wire and ends. Its easier then it sounds. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/engine-ground-locations-116762.html?t=116762&highlight=grounds 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gribs Posted July 26, 2014 Author Share Posted July 26, 2014 New O2 sensor dropped in, made a new ground wire. Got it to start for a few seconds with starting fluid, idled pretty rough for about 5 Seconds, then died, no throttle response. I'm gonna go with bad fuel pump at this point. Anyone have recommendations for a new pump? I'm thinking this one http://www.subimods.com/deatschwerks-dw65c-fuel-pump-w-install-kit-2008-2014-wrx-2008-2014-sti-2005-2009-lgt-by-deatschwerks-for-149-00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finse Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 It might be worth testing your fuel pressure first, before replacing the pump. You stated the alternator and battery are fine, but how did you test the alternator if the car won't run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gribs Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Alternator should be fine, got replaced at 90k, and got the battery tested at a napa down the road. Any easy way to check fuel pressure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finse Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Is the new alternator OEM, or did you get a unit from elsewhere? In the past I've got not oem starters / alternators from places like advance that failed in a very short interval. That said, if your battery is showing 14v, there should be enough power to start/run the car for a little bit even with a bad alternator. You need a fuel pressure gauge, you can get a cheap one at harbor frieght. Connect it inline at the supply line near the FPR (near the brake booster, back in the corner. When I do this, I pull the fuel pump fuse, and turn the car over a few times to release any pressure in the system, otherwise you could end up spraying fuel (assuming you have any pressure). Have some rags handy and always wear safety glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Or just break a fuel line loose and see if there's pressure in there. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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