frank_ster Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 theme song ! [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oI-H9jrh3s&feature=related]YouTube - buckaroo[/ame] Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 There are other ways around lag antilag or n2o, which I have thought a lot about! n2o + in cabin on-off switch + rpm window switch (2000-3500rpm) + pressure off switch for when target boost is achieved. Would also need a turbo with anti-surge compressor housing. Would shore up boost threshold! [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CjZeppy Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I think you should of put a bigger engine in it! lol Great job on the build. here's a link to a guy on SLi.net thats throwing a Viper motor and tranny in his GT! lol http://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=18092 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenNorthLGT Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 RWD, and therefore not nearly as interesting as frank_sters build... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaltonUltra Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Had to log in and comment: This is a pretty cool build. The only other one I've seen to rival it is the drifter who installed a Series1 L67 in his 240SX. One quick correction, though: The Series2 N/A (L36) makes 205hp/230hp. The S2 L67 with the supercharger makes 240hp/280ft-lbs. The thing that makes these engines great, though, isn't the peak numbers. It's the fact that the torque peaks low, and the curve is as flat as Nebraska. My 98 Park Avenue Ultra, which weighs in at a bit over 3900lbs, runs the 1/4 in 13.8. It's a lot heavier than the Regal or Gran Prix, of course, and the suspension is horrible for drag racing... I also went way too high with my torque converter and lost a bunch of the peak torque. Even so, with a cam, rockers, headers, and a mild pulley on a later-gen supercharger, it still makes 268whp, and over 340wft/lbs. If I put an intercooler plate in it, I'd pretty easily gain another 20hp and 30ft/lbs even before I pulley down. Keep in mind, this is with un-touched heads. The Series2 heads are horribly rough inside, and some simple porting will yield big results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruggerheist Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 not only is this swap epic, but it has a theme song too? that viper swap doesnt have a theme song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 That guy and his shock-based style of building cars that lacks direction and a fundamental concept of how cars even work as a system... definitely has no relation to anything in this thread. Sure they're both swapping engines into a Legacy, but look past that and I'm sure I couldn't find two more drastically different approaches to modifying cars. [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share Posted June 4, 2011 Had to log in and comment: This is a pretty cool build. The only other one I've seen to rival it is the drifter who installed a Series1 L67 in his 240SX. One quick correction, though: The Series2 N/A (L36) makes 205hp/230hp. The S2 L67 with the supercharger makes 240hp/280ft-lbs. The thing that makes these engines great, though, isn't the peak numbers. It's the fact that the torque peaks low, and the curve is as flat as Nebraska. . uh .. whats the correction ? Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 That guy and his shock-based style of building cars that lacks direction and a fundamental concept of how cars even work as a system... definitely has no relation to anything in this thread. Sure they're both swapping engines into a Legacy, but look past that and I'm sure I couldn't find two more drastically different approaches to modifying cars. I think Rugger is talking about the SAAB-Viper. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 I think Rugger is talking about the SAAB-Viper. Nope - he's talking about this Legacy: http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/robsontuning/2010%20build/P1000213.jpg A completely messed up mod project that has gone way out of sense. No longer AWD but RWD and engine swapped several times etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadvw Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Nope - he's talking about this Legacy: A completely messed up mod project that has gone way out of sense. No longer AWD but RWD and engine swapped several times etc. Yeah, it's kinda crazy, but.. if I could have a Viper with 4 doors and room for the family... For maybe $20k in parts and did most of the work myself (like this guy).. Of course, the swap might be much easier if done into something like a Chrysler 300 or Magnum. Of course, if you have the $$$, just buy a CTS-V wagon or somesuch.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted June 5, 2011 I Donated Share Posted June 5, 2011 Mega squirt fuel management. are you using MS as a piggyback or stand alone? I have mine set up as a stand alone and i love it -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruggerheist Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 i was talking about the legacy, there is a saab with a viper swap????? linky?????? you piqued my curiosity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSpeed Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 The 3800 is BADASS. So much freaking torque!!! I had a N/A one in a Pontiac Bonneville which felt way faster than it actually was. My buddy has a built up one in a buick regal which is totally stealth. Unless it's raining or snowing, I wouldn't have the guts to mess with him in my LGT. Awesome build. Someone at Subaru with a brain should hire you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 are you using MS as a piggyback or stand alone? I have mine set up as a stand alone and i love it Well basically stand alone It's still drive by wire. And the stock tach works bits that's all the stock ECM is dooin Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 The 3800 is BADASS. So much freaking torque!!! I had a N/A one in a Pontiac Bonneville which felt way faster than it actually was. My buddy has a built up one in a buick regal which is totally stealth. Unless it's raining or snowing, I wouldn't have the guts to mess with him in my LGT. Awesome build. Someone at Subaru with a brain should hire you. Haha yea! If I worked at Subaru I would make the 5 eat rwd with clutch packs for fwd Build the car with 3.6 h6 turbo and a big one !! Off switch for awd Off switch for stability management Even the manual one be rwd with clutch packs for the fwd. The opposite of the old subarus that were 4wd 6 mt tranny with a wicked over drive And make sure who ever designed the 5 th gen gets his ass canned! Bring back the legacy wagon!! And maybe even make a spec b wagon:) Make it into a fun kick ass car Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommyh Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 ...I think I love you... Martin Luther - "Who loves not women, wine and song remains a fool his whole life long." EL4NFZT7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMER DOWN Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Haha yea! If I worked at Subaru I would make the 5 eat rwd with clutch packs for fwd Build the car with 3.6 h6 turbo and a big one !! Off switch for awd Off switch for stability management Even the manual one be rwd with clutch packs for the fwd. The opposite of the old subarus that were 4wd 6 mt tranny with a wicked over drive And make sure who ever designed the 5 th gen gets his ass canned! Bring back the legacy wagon!! And maybe even make a spec b wagon Make it into a fun kick ass car And all for under $30k:) Mileage:331487 Retired/Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaltonUltra Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 uh .. whats the correction ? ah, sorry, I should have quoted. Someone stated that the Series2 L67 produced 240hp and 340ft/lbs instead of the actually 240/280. Just some mis-stated numbers, NBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 i was talking about the legacy, there is a saab with a viper swap????? linky?????? you piqued my curiosity http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/swiper-another-car-build-162990.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted June 5, 2011 I Donated Share Posted June 5, 2011 Well basically stand alone It's still drive by wire. And the stock tach works bits that's all the stock ECM is dooin What MS system are you using? Have you messed with tuning it yourself at all? Any issues with it? -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 What MS system are you using? Have you messed with tuning it yourself at all? Any issues with it? its tuned from scratch by me. i have run ms1 ms2 and now i'm running ms3 fyi ms1 can do pretty much everything ms2 is kinda of annoying because its missing a bunch of inputs ms3 awesome ! only tuning issues are from trying to make the stock subaru computer happy, because i realy don't want to change the dash. Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted June 6, 2011 I Donated Share Posted June 6, 2011 its tuned from scratch by me. i have run ms1 ms2 and now i'm running ms3 fyi ms1 can do pretty much everything ms2 is kinda of annoying because its missing a bunch of inputs ms3 awesome ! only tuning issues are from trying to make the stock subaru computer happy, because i realy don't want to change the dash. I'm on MS1 in my car as a full stand alone. There is nothing left of my stock harness or ECU left. Mine has been protuned on a Dynojet though. I don't know enough about it to do it all myself yet. The only issue I have with the MS1 is on startup. My Duty Cycle settings for the idle. I've been tweaking my cranking and closed DC settings to try and fix a startup idle problem I have. When I start the engine (warm or cold) my rpms will jump between 1000 and 3000 a few times before they settle down to a normal idle. When I have the time to spare, I'll wire in a clutch switch and start playing around with launch control and flat shifting. Were you able to carry your maps over from MS1 - MS2 and from MS2 - MS3? Or did you have to start from scratch each time. -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 you can import the maps not a problem . but i have wide band and i just use the auto tune feature. i can get a fairly good tune from scratch in about 45 min. tune on a dyno would be nice but i either use a big hill or the drag strip for final tunes. Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvonaxion Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I've read through the first 10 pages, subscribing so I can get to read the rest when I have time. Congrats on the build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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