Haight 05LGT Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Can anyone tell me if this is a normal RR log? My mods are simply, K&N Drop in filter, Intake silencer delete, and 1/4" spaced hogzaust(It sounds too good to remove >.<)romraiderlog_20120903_174305.csv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec B Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Looks ok to me. You are logging way too much stuff.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haight 05LGT Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 I figured I was. It was my first time logging, so I was just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spec B Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 It would be more informative if you log: Engine speed Engine load Maf V Maf g/sec Knock Sum Manifold pressure (corrected) Total timing WGDC IAM - I usually check it before and after the run - no real reason to log it. This should be at "1" all the time. Optional (IMO): Fine Learning Knock Correction Feedback Knock Correction You should do a learning view..More info here: http://www.romraider.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=7397 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haight 05LGT Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 I forgot the learning view...damn. I will re-do the log tonight with a learningview and repost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haight 05LGT Posted September 5, 2012 Author Share Posted September 5, 2012 Finally got around to doing it correctly...I hope. Give me some good news please.romraiderlog_20120905_112527.csv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Please put the time format back to normal. 25:27.6 25:27.7 format is annoying to look at. Vehicle speed is pretty useless, you might want to get rid of that and instead, if you want, log Gear. Also get rid of Knock Correction Advance. Log FBKC (1-byte) and FLKC (1-byte) and Knock Sum. Get rid of Fuel Consumption and Fuel level. Get rid of MAF voltage. Get rid of Manifold Relative Pressure (corrected) but instead log MRP Sea Level (4-byte). Add in Throttle Plate Opening Angle These parameters should give you a good idea of the general health of your car. If it shows any problems, you can add more parameters as needed depending on what we see. The good news is the LV looks mostly clean but it does have that -2.80 degrees of knock at mid-load, low RPM. Have you been accelerating in 3rd/4th/5th at lowering RPMs? This can cause knock. Don't bog your engine down like that. Your AF trims are well within range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haight 05LGT Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 I have been bogging it down a little bit I guess. Is it possible that I have caused permanent damage by doing so? I am so used to driving more forgiving vehicles. Thanks for the input iNVAR. I'll change around a few things and try it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 You probably didn't hurt anything, but it certainly isn't good for the car. My personal rule of thumb is 3rd/4th/5th you should at least be at 2KRPM to accelerate, even lightly. WOT is even okay in all of those gears at 2K+ but for 5th, you should preferably be above 2500 if you're going to go WOT or you'll just build up a lot of boost and accomplish nothing until you get to 3K anyway. Below 2KRPM requires a downshift to 2nd/1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec B Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Never understood the difference between MRP (corrected) and MRP sea level. Does it matter if you are at sea level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haight 05LGT Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 Problem...I have updated RR with the latest Logger Defs(V.82), using RR v5.5+ and I do not have the option to log FBKC. It does not show up in the list of parameters. Neither does Knock Summary. It is possible that my ECU does not support these parameters? I am at a loss here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 As I was explained to by someone else, the ECU uses MRP Sea Level to compare to Target Boost to make adjustments to Turbo Dynamics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Problem...I have updated RR with the latest Logger Defs(V.82), using RR v5.5+ and I do not have the option to log FBKC. It does not show up in the list of parameters. Neither does Knock Summary. It is possible that my ECU does not support these parameters? I am at a loss here. You won't see those until your laptop is connected to the ECU in your car. They are "extended" parameters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haight 05LGT Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 Fail...Just read that on RomRaider.com...thanks iNVAR. I will post a new log with those parameters here shortly. Do I need to do another learning view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Not really. Your log looks fine, the LV looks mostly fine. If you want to double check stuff, do a WOT pull in 3rd gear from 2000 to redline. You need a long stretch of straight road with no cars to do this as you'll be doing about 90 around redline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haight 05LGT Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 I have the perfect road for that. No sidestreets and hardly any traffic. Perfectly flat for about a mile and tall trees on either side. The only place a cop could be is in front of me or behind me...in plain site. I pushed my Leggy up to 121 yesterday morning here. Is there a governor on our cars that limits top speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyOldManMN Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haight 05LGT Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 Just finished up what I hope to be the correct log with the correct parameters. Ok iNVAR...How did I do? How does it look?romraiderlog_20120905_202029.csv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec B Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 You have some learned knock on the low/mid end (which showed up on your LV) - the log looks good to me. There was no knock on your run and boost looks about right for stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haight 05LGT Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 What could be causing the learned knock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 What I mentioned before about the low RPM in high gears. Under 2k in 3rd or higher, you should not be attempting to accelerate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haight 05LGT Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 Will it eventually go away if I can correct my driving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 if that's what's responsible for it, yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haight 05LGT Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 iNVAR, this might sound dumb...but could the k&n panel filter I just installed be contributing to the knock? Possibly giving the maf false readings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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