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any1 know the size of the stock Injectors in our 3.6Rs ? lemme know asap

 

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336.95 CC per injector

 

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From Raptor's Facebook page:

 

 

An we announce to the world - there shall be an EZ36 header. With a very small change our current EZ30 header presents as the worlds first EZ36 header. I will put in a production order for this piece ASAP

 

Stocks will be a little while ......... I think

 

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on the mustang dyno

 

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Well done! Can't wait for first impressions.

That is ~380 at the crank.

imagine the numbers on a dynojet

 

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while she was waiting for me to pick her up!

 

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Any concerns on reliability? 6psi seems reasonable... 290 is 65hp more then tuned NA versions, which is 22-23% over stock.

Any changes in lubrication system? Different injectors it seems?

none yet just needs an oil change when we add more boost I also be adding water/meth injection.

 

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ya they are 565cc sti injectors

 

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Nice. On ECS FB page they are saying to do this SC setup the budget would be ~ $10k. That's insane.

its just to be on the safe side. most of the kinks and fabrication was worked out. With ECS/Raptor working together to provide a complete kit the install and tune time will be reduced greatly. since mine is first one ever there was a lot of changes made to brackets and the water cooling system to sit proper and look as Clean as it does . I took the hit so u future guys now have a straight forward install especially if u use ECS who now has weeks of experience with this setup. 10k budget is just so you have some cushion if problems occur.

 

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I guess it is not intercooled? May be i missed it. If not, i'd prefer more robust water intercooling instead of misting... Alcohol or anything else for that matter, those systems are never stable.

http://www.autospeed.com/cms/article.html?&title=Frozen-Facts&A=108702

It is 51% power increase over stock at 4.3psi boost. 100hp gain

 

Would be impressive on dynojet

 

Headers typically add 30whp on H6. That is next

 

System price is USD4500

Edited June 21, 2014 by Tradewind

4-5 psi is perfect for this motor and DD. Sure the 7psi pulley is nice and can likely approac 415-430bhp tuned but the amount of wtq put down would likely need mechanical changes to the 5EAT for durability.

 

I love this kit and think its great as is at 4-5psi.

 

I believe its a watercooled compressor, correct?

It is 51% power increase over stock at 4.3psi boost. 100hp gain

 

Would be impressive on dynojet

 

Headers typically add 30whp on H6. That is next

 

System price is USD4500

 

It is not a 100hp gain. It is more like a 100whp gain over stock. That is impressive.

 

I am putting him at around 380 at the crank. That is almost 48% gain over stock. But, he does have a better exhaust than OEM, so not sure what difference that makes over just the SC kit.

The supercharger transmission is liquid cooled and has its own radiator and pump system, this draws heat out of the transmission and also to a lesser degree from the compressor snail. Basically a normal oil filled gear type charger in the hot engine area will operate at about 185F, the liquid cooled charger typically operates at 85-95F.

 

The lower temp of the charger means it compresses more efficiently as the air within the compressor is taking up less heat, as this one heat source is mostly removed. There is still the heat of compression, but the total warmth added to the air is at a minimum compared to all other compressor types, but only because of this liquid cooling feature, it gives you a path to unload some heat.

 

The SC trans is often same as your body temp or even much less if weather is cold

 

These early indications point in the direction of a beast engine. I have seen other others making this kind of power gains at this same boost level - Toyota for example

 

The upgrade path going forward might look like this - from experience with H6 3.0

 

Headers - +30hp - new total 320whp

 

Boost is giving 25hp per psi at this stage, this ratio will fall as boost is increased, always does.

 

Extra 4psi @ 17hp per psi gives + ~65hp. New total inc headers and boost 388whp.

 

Something around 360hp+ at the wheel would be an expectation that is quite real

Edited June 21, 2014 by Tradewind

It is not a 100hp gain. It is more like a 100whp gain over stock. That is impressive.

 

I am putting him at around 380 at the crank. That is almost 48% gain over stock. But, he does have a better exhaust than OEM, so not sure what difference that makes over just the SC kit.

 

From my experience with the 3.0, changes at the rear of the system are necessary but yield no real gains unless coupled with a header system - then you can say the exhaust has contributed to power gains and power can rise by up to 30hp. Have seen a lot of this before and after, changing cat back on a 3.0 makes next to no difference, but if headers added you know with full confidence that exhaust is contributing to final power output. I believe the 3.6 car will be similar as many parts are similar to the 3.0 in this area

^^^ are you saying the supercharger is cooled by transmission fluid?

The SC has a water jacket on its transmission - coolant is pumped from dedicated radiator to supercharger and returned to radiator

 

There is no liquid connection to engine or any other part of the powertrain of the vehicle

I already have a transmission cooler installed. I don't know bow I would best tap in and still utilize the cooler I already have.

Your transmission runs ATF fluid - an oil

 

The supercharger system runs Coolant - Glycol/antifreeze

 

It must be a separate system