Jon in CT Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I thought this might be useful as a reference. It's fairly new. http://i36.tinypic.com/14myyit.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobE Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 coming over here because you cant go back to nasioc? http://newenglandsubarus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 CAFE? What the hell's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984trx200 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Looks like they revised the hwy mpg for the 2.5i manual trans legacy/outback/forester. The brochures say it's 26...but this updated chart shows 27. Not a big deal...but I wonder what caused this to change? Was it how they tested it...or a design change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in CT Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 coming over here because you cant go back to nasioc? Information just wants to be free and it doesn't really matter that much where it's introduced on the internet. I guess it just means you guys in this forum will have to tolerate a little more web traffic here due to other forums/blogs linking to threads here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis008 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Fine by me. Thanks Jon. -ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in CT Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Looks like they revised the hwy mpg for the 2.5i manual trans legacy/outback/forester. The brochures say it's 26...but this updated chart shows 27. Not a big deal...but I wonder what caused this to change? Was it how they tested it...or a design change...The values in the table above are what you'll see on the new cars' Monroney stickers. The EPA specifies how those values are determined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melayout Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Disappointing....they need at least one model that does 25+ city and 30+ highway. I keed I keeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in CT Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Disappointing....they need at least one model that does 25+ city and 30+ highway.Which other manufacturer is achieving those numbers with an AWD vehicle? I'm not saying one doesn't exist; just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 ;1996797']Which other manufacturer is achieving those numbers with an AWD vehicle? I'm not saying one doesn't exist; just wondering. Audi claims 28mpg on the A4 2.0T Quattro. Direct Injection has numerous benefits, one of which is fuel efficiency. Subaru can't match that with a N/A motor even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in CT Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Audi claims 28mpg on the A4 2.0T Quattro.28 mpg is SO close to 30 mpg. But no cigar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 ;1996846']28 mpg is SO close to 30 mpg. But no cigar. hint for the recently banned NASIOC member. it's a turbo car Subaru can't match that without the turbo. One doesn't have to meet/exceed your request to show Subaru is WAY behind the curve on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 also....name another NA 4cyl AWD car sold in the US. hard to compare with anything except a turbo model due to availability, so, logic says that if the competitor's awd turbo model exceeds Subaru's awd NA ratings then apples to apples, it would be even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in CT Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 also....name another NA 4cyl AWD car sold in the US.It doesn't have to NA or a 4cyl. It just has to be AWD and get 30 mpg. I don't think such a thing exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Hey Jon, there is no navigation package for the Impreza GT? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in CT Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Hey Jon, there is no navigation package for the Impreza GT? .Correct, for the 2009 model. There's only a single trim line for the IGT, Premium Package, which doesn't include NAVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 ;1996894']Correct' date=' for the 2009 model. There's only a single trim line for the IGT, Premium Package, which doesn't include NAVI.[/quote'] Subaru does the oddest things, oh well, no loss to me. I am about to put a deposit down on a 2009 FXT Limited w/ Navigation, anyways. I figured they would've started offering a navigation with the automatic. Well, at least I know I'm not missing out on anything. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B. Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 also....name another NA 4cyl AWD car sold in the US. hard to compare with anything except a turbo model due to availability, so, logic says that if the competitor's awd turbo model exceeds Subaru's awd NA ratings then apples to apples, it would be even worse. toyota matrix http://autos.yahoo.com/toyota_matrix_s_awd_4_spd_at/ look at that great mileage...hahahaha...im my 07 5eat 26.1 has been achieved at 80mph and that included some city driving. you guys cry and whine too fricken much. anyone here can and lots have gotten better than epa estimates. anyone notice how subaru keeps gearing the cars slower and slower yet they keep getting worse mileage ratings? that new rating thing is still under cutting what these cars actually get. no one whines when we get under rated hp. hahahahaha...335 xi look at that GREAT mileage http://autos.yahoo.com/bmw_3_series_sedan_335xi/ we can bump our cars to fp green and prolly get even better mileage and have more power than a modded 335xi. seriously...i'm pretty tired of the mileage complaining because they are unfounded. boost at every stoplight will drain gas like any other turbo car. constant hgwy will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatesGr8 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 ^^^^^we will most likely have better mileage than the 335xi, not sure about power though, my room mate is making 380awhp with an intake and catless exhaust!!! and not to mention, absolutely zero lag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 You folks realize how much more the 335xi is, right? Similarly equipped Spec B vs 335xi, you can likely walk out of the dealership with the Spec B for almost $15K less. If I was spending the extra $10K-$15K, it better be significantly quicker, better handling, and better engineering. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viber Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 If I wanted great MPG I would have gotten a Honda FIT When you buy a mid-size, turbo, AWD car, you shouldnt expect to get great MPG Besides I am getting a combined 22.6 MPG currently, that isnt exactly terrible mileage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 ;1996797']Which other manufacturer is achieving those numbers with an AWD vehicle? I'm not saying one doesn't exist; just wondering. GS350 with AWD has 303 HP and achieves 18/25. Thats better than a LGT and theres alot more car there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GULLABLE0NE Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 yea i think the awd matrix and awd corrola do pretty well in the mpg department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in CT Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 GS350 with AWD has 303 HP and achieves 18/25. Thats better than a LGT and theres alot more car there.That's NOT better than a 5MT LGT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 ;1998734']That's NOT better than a 5MT LGT. Indeed its not, however this car weighs 400 lbs. more and is putting down alot more power than a LGT. Thus the automatic is as quick as a MT LGT. The GS also benefits from direct fuel injection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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