jonoco Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Just figured I'd pass along some info I picked up today regarding the Bosal CBE. As most of you know the original SPT versions end seams of the mufflers were leaking due to a miss adjusted crimping machine. This lead to numerous warranty claims and SPT eventually going with AEM for the Version 2 they sell now through dealerships. Not everyone including myself is able to drop $700 plus on any one of the stainless steel systems currently offered for the LGT. Sure there are less expensive options like the CX Lightning/Gimmick CBE but the cost is offset with lower grade materials and sometimes questionable fitment. I came across a post about Bosal offering a Version 1.5 of their system that included redesigned mufflers. After reading a couple reviews of the system and the excellent service provided by Mike to fix the original issues I decided to call him myself. Apparently they still have about 25 full systems in stock with an addtional 75+ mid and y-pipe sets minus mufflers. Needless to say they're eager to get rid of these. I'm in no way affiliated with Bosal. I was just another curious LGT owner that was looking into a more cost effective stainless steel CBE so I figured I'd pass along what I learned. If you have more questions, feel free to contact Mike at the number/e-mail listed below. Seems like a real stand up guy and was more than willing to answer all my questions and provide some excellent pricing. Here's what I found out. -Jon Bosal Stainless Steel CBE 3" Midpipe/Y-Pipe (2.25" taper at mufflers) S/S except the flanges Inlet designed for OEM downpipe Non-resonated 1 year warranty $375 plus shipping Mid/Y-pipe Combo Does not bolt up to OEM mufflers $200 plus shipping Mike Yatkowitz Bosal USA/Bosal Performance 14 Troy Hills Rd. Whippany, NJ 07981 800-631-7271 x227 973-240-2227 (direct line) myatkowitz@bosalusa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adpsmp Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Do you have pics or sound clips of this exhaust? Version 2's are easy to find, I've yet to find a version 1 (yes, I have used the search function too) What is the significant difference between the two versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg_mitch Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 I thought the SPT exhaust was 2.5". If it says "designed for OEM DP" that means it necks down to 2.5" at least, right? What are the materials? The CXLighting is SS too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tossty Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Thank you for the information, I already wrote an email to the POC. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugblatterbeast Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 I picked up one of these about 2 years ago for ~$400. I can't complain for the price but there is one thing I would keep an eye out for on these (assuming the design hasn't changed). The ball flange the mates with the stock donut gasket was welded at two points instead of three. As a result, the flange was distorted into an oval. I couldn't get a seal at that point till I machined the donut gasket into an oval. IIRC, I had to take off nearly 2 mm on the narrow side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbwrx Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 i bought mine directly from mike a while back and posted his info up here too. i love my bosal exhaust, i think its the best looking and best sounding too. even sounds great with my twinscroll setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 I thought the SPT exhaust was 2.5". If it says "designed for OEM DP" that means it necks down to 2.5" at least, right? What are the materials? The CXLighting is SS too. SPT is 2.25" from y to cans. Both SPT and Bosal are 2.5" at DP flange. Materials are S/S. But much better grade than XO2/CXLighting?GMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg_mitch Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 So they are like Magnaflow in that they are 3" mid but neck down at DP and the y is 3" and then neck down to mufflers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMontie1 Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 without photos or sound clip, its hard to say whether or not i'd go for it. photos especially given their history. i was kinda set on having to get the cxlighting or gms at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 This sounds like a very nice alternative. Even if it does not last forever,it will not rust the way the XO2/CXLighting/GMS will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoco Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 Pics can be seen here. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/bosal-question-81655.html?highlight=Bosal+exhaust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman33 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Great options!!! I'm still just waiting to hear what the non-resonated GMS sounds like. Being that this one is not resonated either, I want to make sure that its something I can live with. There's been a few people that have gotten the GMS yet nobody has made any video or sound clips. Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 there are vids of the gms. losangeleslgt posted one. sounds like **** if you ask me. I have heard his car in person. He is taking out the non-resonated midpipe and swapping to a resonated mid pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman33 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 HE POSTED ONE??!?!?!!? When was this??? I asked him about it but I guess I missed that post. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Can't find Max's vid right now. It might be buried in an ERZ DP thread. Here are two other vids from members I found though. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/gimmick-catback-exhaust-legacy-gt-128367p6.html http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/gimmick-catback-exhaust-legacy-gt-128367p8.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman33 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Thanks alot. I've missed these somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoobie Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 there are vids of the gms. losangeleslgt posted one. sounds like **** if you ask me. I have heard his car in person. He is taking out the non-resonated midpipe and swapping to a resonated mid pipe. I agree that the CX/X02 sounds like crap as well. Those straight through exhausts don't sound good at all IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMontie1 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 this one is straight through too like the GMS. no resonator. the CXlighting one actually does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 SPT (V2) has no resonator, Cobb has no resonator. Both sound spectacular IMHO. I think this CBE probably sounds nice too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoobie Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 this one is straight through too like the GMS. no resonator. the CXlighting one actually does I was more referring to the straight through muffler design more than straight through mid-pipe. But yeah, both make a difference in how "raw" the sound is if that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imitation Asian Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Has anyone put this on a 2.5i ? Sounds like a great price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tossty Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Have anybody got a reply from the POC? Mike Yatkowitz Bosal USA/Bosal Performance 14 Troy Hills Rd. Whippany, NJ 07981 800-631-7271 x227 973-240-2227 (direct line) myatkowitz@bosalusa.com I did contact Mike a while ago but have no received any reply yet. Interested in getting one of those CBE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoco Posted March 31, 2010 Author Share Posted March 31, 2010 I spoke with him two weeks ago. Did you try calling the direct line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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