I Donated Too luchadorjose Posted September 10, 2011 I Donated Too Share Posted September 10, 2011 Hey guys, subie + turbo noob here. What kind of maintenance can I do to regain lost performance? My two day new subie is an 08 with 70k miles, and I feel like it's just slightly less powerful than I would have expected. I used to own a Toyota matrix and there were things like cleaning/replacing the air filter, cleaning the MAF sensor, resetting the computer, and using fuel additives/cleaners that I did every year or so that seemed to help with lost performance. Or are there easy things that I could do to improve performance, if I'm incorrectly assuming that it's "lost" performance? Thanks for any help, I'm completely new to subies and turbos, but really want to jump in with both feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucid Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Welcome! Brush up on you reading skills and you'll find a wealth of information on this forum. Start here: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/attn-new-members-look-here-first-67940.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated Too luchadorjose Posted September 12, 2011 Author I Donated Too Share Posted September 12, 2011 Thanks, I'll read over that again. I was just looking for someone to advise me on specifically the stuff I talked about in my post. I couldn't find this type of maintenance and troubleshooting advice by searching and browsing. Noob problem I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 cleaning the maf sensor and getting a fresh oem filter is always a good idea. also, make sure to run only 93 octane, and preferably higher quality...like shell..... if at all possible, no, don't get the stop n' shop gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzman Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Is the maf sensor difficult to access? I heard it's fairly easy to destroy too if cleaned inproperly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated Too luchadorjose Posted September 13, 2011 Author I Donated Too Share Posted September 13, 2011 That's good to know. I put in a K&N drop in this weekend, and cleaned the MAF sensor, it felt like it was breathing easier. The dirty filter was nasty and had dried leaves... I always put gas in at costco, they're about .30$ cheaper for 93 gas, they only carry 89 and 93. Guess I have to man up and buy the Cobb AP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 it's the easiest thing to access. look for the sensor ontop of your airbox held in by 2 phillips head screws , unplug it, hold it in the air, spray it with maf cleaner from a foot away, let air dry, reinstall, replug, reset ecu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 costco gas is about as good as putting cow feces in your tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated Too luchadorjose Posted September 13, 2011 Author I Donated Too Share Posted September 13, 2011 For me the MAF was an easy clean. It's located right on top of the stock airbox, with a plug and two screws. Unplug it, undo the screws, and make sure you're careful with it. I cleaned it using an electronic parts cleaner (I'm a computer guy) that i sprayed on, and rubbed the bulb gently with a q-tip. Sprayed it again, let it air dry, and reinstalled it. That, with the K&N hiflow drop in, seemed to make a small difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated Too luchadorjose Posted September 13, 2011 Author I Donated Too Share Posted September 13, 2011 it's that bad? uh oh costco... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 bad gas can certainly lead to poor performance...especially in these cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch1011 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 costco gas is about as good as putting cow feces in your tank. I would love to see the proof behind this statement. Costco gas has been working just fine in my car since I bought it, it works fine in my friend's Sti, and worked fine in my old mazdaspeed3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulFWMotorsports Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Regarding the MAF sensor: be careful NOT to damage the o ring when futzing with it...you'll create a vacuum leak that will hinder performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I would love to see the proof behind this statement. Costco gas has been working just fine in my car since I bought it, it works fine in my friend's Sti, and worked fine in my old mazdaspeed3. The supplier of costco gas is garbage, it may work fine for you, but I certainly wouldn't put it in my car. Consistency is key. You'd be surprised what kind of logs I've done when people go to "lowest price" gas stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I use the same stations, and monitor their fuel performance through fuel economy. 7-11 has treated me well, and of course Exxon/Shell/Gulf have been consistently good. What you need to keep in mind is that fuel is a matter of location. 3 stations next to each other all likely get their base fuel from the same storage facilities. The governing stations then implement their detergent packages at a processing plant before trucking fuel to stations. So Shell gas might have been refined by BP. It's all a commodity trade. It works, because there are almost no variations in refinery products. Standards are forced to be met. If you find a brand you like, their fuel is likely to be approximately consistent across the nation. Gulf 93 in MD will almost assuredly be identical to Gulf 93 in Florida. Another consideration is location based detergents. Colorado fuel might not have the same detergent package as Maryland fuel. This is all something to consider when you get your car tuned. A conservative tune is going to be more capable of handling the inevitable variations in fuel quality and content. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzerklo Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Just be easy on the cleaning oil when you clean your K&N filter - excess oil has been known to gum up the MAF. Dry filters that don't use cleaning oil are available as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemicalWaste Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I would love to see the proof behind this statement. Costco gas has been working just fine in my car since I bought it, it works fine in my friend's Sti, and worked fine in my old mazdaspeed3. I'll grab a shovel and my AP and hit up the neighbor and let you know how it works out. Maybe there's an ots cow-patty map from Cobb somewhere and then after I run the "sh!t" out of it, stop at costco and log some more. Judging your gas by fuel economy is about as accurate as judging the nutrition value of your food by your underwear streaks. While eating a spinach salad and Burger King may produce similar results the spinach salad probably did less damage than a California Whopper from the creepy King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Since you just bought this car at 70k, my rule of thumb on any used car is to redo the last major service since it very likely was not completed. For your car that would be: Oil change Brake flush Coolant flush Trans and Duffy fluid flush Plugs In particular, I would also do a compression test and switch to synthetic fluids. We like Amsoil in the trans and diffys and redline, amsoil or motul in the engine. NGK oem plugs are also suggested. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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