2Simpletons Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Hey all, Anybody know what's involved in a coolant flush? Never done one and tryin' save some bucks. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacy2005 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 theres not to much to it. the quick way would be to remove the lower radiator hose and let it all drain out. and then refill the system. just be sure that you burp and refill the system properly since you will be creating a big air pocket by emptying the whole cooling system. Work hard. Play even harder. My Garage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0032 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 You can race the wife to see who finishes first. http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2671&highlight=Coolant+flush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Simpletons Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 ^^:lol:^^ Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesuby Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I believe the refill calls for adding a Subaru conditioner to the coolant. Which is puzzling....if you were to buy the Subaru coolant why wouldn't the conditioner be pre-mixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 ^ money making schemes Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Were Here Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Might want to consider an upgrade to Zerex G-05 when you're done. Based on the Net buzz, there isn't anything better. Anecdotally, I've used it in the last three vehicles and no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elej Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 with boxer motor, does coolant in block drain also just by removing radiator drain plug ? what about heater core? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elej Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 ^^to follow up on that post, this is the method i would use for my Honda. 1. drain radiator & resevoir and replace drain plug 2. remove thermostat and replace housing (to flush engine block) 3. disconnect upper radiator hose from radiator and aim down 4. start car and turn heat on (to flush heater core also) 5. flush with water. being obsessive compulsive, i would use a dump-load of distilled water to do this, to avoid putting impurities into the cooling system as you dump water in, it will cycle thru everything and flow out the upper hose. 6. replace all the stuff you took off. 7. from the manual, i knew how much fluid heater core and engine block held, so i would add the appropriate amount of coolant to the radiator & resevoir to dilute the water remaining in the engine to the proper mixture. 8. run & re-check levels my apologies if this method would be totally irrelevant to the LGT. but with the Honda, that was the only way to flush radiator, block, & heater core without the use of any specialized equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Might want to consider an upgrade to Zerex G-05 when you're done. Based on the Net buzz' date=' there isn't anything better. Anecdotally, I've used it in the last three vehicles and no problems.[/quote'] I'm pretty sure that Zerex is an antifreeze/coolant. Please read this Subaru article. Cliff Notes: Always use Genuine Subaru Long Life Anti-Freeze Coolant,Don't use any aftermarket coolant reinforcement agents or sealers as they may clog the radiator,or cause internal corrosion.SBTCoolant Cautions May05.pdf - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 As much as I believe that to be a scam, when it comes timew to change my coolant, it'll be with the genuine subaru stuff, just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmundu Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 As much as I believe that to be a scam, when it comes timew to change my coolant, it'll be with the genuine subaru stuff, just in case. That's what I used! Besides, the oem stuff was $10.75 gal, only about $2 bucks more than Prestone, Zerex, Peak, etc... YOu only need to do it every 30k.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Oem Fluid 30% 2 Bottles of water wetter Fill with distilled water Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccorry Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Can someone answer the previous question about the engine block being self draining via the radiator drain? I am interested as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 If you really want to fully drain the engine block, you'll need to pull the drain plugs on each side. I'll find a diagram later and post up. SBT - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccorry Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 That would be great. I like to fully drain everthing, then push fresh water through everthing and out the drains, then refilling. I used to pull the water jacket drain plugs on my LT1 (which was a HUGE PITA) just for this purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 That would be great. I like to fully drain everthing, then push fresh water through everthing and out the drains, then refilling. I used to pull the water jacket drain plugs on my LT1 (which was a HUGE PITA) just for this purpose. You need to pull the engine plugs to drain the block. If you did it on an LT1 this will seem like a walk in the park BTW, you people are all crazy Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elej Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Please read this Subaru article. "Use only a phosphate (non-amine) formula. Read the label carefully to be sure." Doesn't mention anything about silicates either... Honda was very specific in using silicate-free. The only info in the Owner's Manual is to use ethylene-glycol based coolant, I thought pretty much all coolants were ethylene-glycol based and it was the additives to be careful of. i'll do some reading on vacation, will post if i find anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0032 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 BTW, you people are all crazy Why? http://www.v6performance.net/forums/images/smilies/poke.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkl303 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Where do you guys go to get rid of all your antifreeze? All the places around me last time wouldn't touch the stuff...ie pepboys, autozone, checker, dump yard required that I have alot of the stuff for the removal and that I couldn't just "drop it off." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccorry Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I've always heard that you should flush it down the toilet. It is biodegradable and the sewage treatment plants can easily handle it. Just keep it away from all of your pets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elej Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Did some research, Subaru coolant is the only product recommended. No alternative is listed. I can't find any other specs / contents on Subs coolant either, so I'd be very hesitant to put anything else in. ALSO it appears Subs coolant is pre-diluted to 50%, that might be important info, especially for those up North. (prob. specified on bottle?) I can't find any info on draining the engine block. my guess is that being enviro friendly, Sub does not want the DIY to dump fluid down the driveway. (for a total flush, its very difficult to capture all the fluid, w/o expensive equipment) Finally: I'll reiterate info contained in Subietonic's link for anybody that considers taking their car into some national chain for coolant service. "Do not use a flushing machine to service Subaru cooling systems. If the machine has been used to service other makes of vehicles that may have copper/brass radiators, a chemical reaction between the copper ions and Genuine Subaru Long Life Anti-Freeze Coolant may occur, which could cause clogging of the radiator." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Simpletons Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 So the dealership said the jug I bought (Subaru brand) is concentrated (NOT pre-diluted) and I need to diulte with water 50/50. Does this sound right? I'm getting conflicting reports. Do I have to used distilled water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elej Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 From the manual: "3. PROCEDURE TO ADJUST THE CONCENTRATION OF THE COOLANT To adjust the concentration of coolant according to temperature, find the proper fluid concentration in the above diagram and replace the necessary amount of coolant with an undiluted solution of SUBARU genuine coolant (concentration 50%). The amount of coolant that should be replaced can be determined using the diagram...... ...........If a coolant concentration of 50% is needed, drain all the coolant and refill with the undiluted solution only." I have never picked up a bottle of Subaru coolant, so I don't know what it says, but I would certainly double-check with the parts counter or better yet, ask a Service Tech. Anybody else care to chime in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Simpletons Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/1808/coolant9yi.jpg It's a 1 Gallon jug (3.78L). The guy at the counter said "Well if it's premixed, you'll need 2 jugs, if it's not, you'll need 1 and it looks like it's not premixed." But this guy didn't really know and had to ask another guy - neither of them were technicians. GHEY. And it's Sunday and I cannot call anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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