OCDetails Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I think some of you have seen the wheel brush I use and know my process. I just wanted to show off some of the results since wheel cleaning is kind of a chore that none of us like to do. However, it is also the first thing I look at when buying a used car. If the wheels are pitted and corroded, then I can be pretty sure that the rest of the car was neglected as well. There is no reason to believe they took the time to clay and polish their car if they were content with brake dust coating their rims and eating them up. So this is a relatively new Audi Q5. Not a bad little vehicle really. The problem with nearly all German vehicles is the brake dust though, so I’d have to really have a good reason to buy an Audi, BMW, Mercedes, or Porsche. They are great cars and all, but if I have to scrape brake dust off every week, then I’m afraid that takes away from the sexiness for me. I’m not into high maintenance women and definitely not into high maintenance vehicles. The first thing I did was spray them down with Eagle One A 2 Z. That is my favorite wheel cleaner. It does a great job of getting brake dust off tires and wheels. However, there is only so much that can do. What it did here was get the top layer off, but it still left a lot on it. I should have taken a before and after picture, but let’s just say not much came off. Mostly just the surface stuff from the past couple days and a lot of junk on the tires. The rest had to be scrubbed off. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/OCDetails/f7c3b242.jpg Look at how black the inside of that rim is. It is just nasty. The whole thing is nasty. This product will get a lot of it off the spokes, but the lip and that ledge inside of it before you get to the inner part of the wheel is where the brake dust does the most damage. There was crap on this wheel which I was not going to spend all day scrubbing at just so it could be neglected again, but with a little extra elbow grease and a nice wheel brush, I got it looking like this: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/OCDetails/74d2da05.jpg The magic there was not in relying on the wheel cleaner to do all my work for me. After I washed the rest of the car, I used the bucket of water to go to work on the wheels. Obviously you don’t want to do it before you wash the car or else you’d be doing it with black water. So I took my handy dandy wheel brush I got from Autogeek at SEMA a couple years ago and went to town scrubbing. Since the brake dust on these wheels hadn’t really had time to do serious damage, most of it came off pretty quick. I just jammed the brush in between the spokes and scrubbed the inside of the wheel. I treated it just like I was brushing teeth when it came to the lip. Scrub scrub scrub… rinse… repeat…. I use a combination of a couple brushes for this kind of thing. One is a Meguiar’s brush, but it works better for large flat faced wheels like the ones on my Corolla. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/OCDetails/CorollaDetail/DSC06925.jpg For this job I used the Daytona Speed Master Wheel Brush. To take a page out of my most recent detailing guide, here are some process pictures on my car. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/OCDetails/CorollaDetail/DSC06927.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/OCDetails/CorollaDetail/DSC06928.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/OCDetails/CorollaDetail/DSC06930.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/OCDetails/CorollaDetail/DSC06932.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/OCDetails/CorollaDetail/DSC06935.jpg That brush does an awesome job and is totally safe on your wheels. The wire that the bristles attach to is wrapped in thick rubber and no metal touches your wheel. I’ve bent this thing back and forth so many times over the last two or three years that you’d think it would have broken by now, but it hasn’t. It is an awesome brush. There are a couple similar models out there on the shelves, but my problem with them has been that they don’t wrap the wire with rubber and they also break pretty easily. So just be picky when shopping for one. On this particular Audi I want to show you what it looked like with just a quick scrubbing on the passenger side front wheel. The right side was just a quick scrubbing, but you can totally see how much better right side of the inner part of that wheel looks in comparison to the left side. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/OCDetails/4e07e884.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/OCDetails/21ca7250.jpg You can also see the parts which require a little more effort which are left, but that is what you get when you have a German car. Using the Meguiar’s brush worked out really well on those parts, so ultimately the wheels turned out pretty good. The back ones weren’t so bad, but here is the before and after of one of the rear wheels: Before: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/OCDetails/2d9e3d2b.jpg After: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/OCDetails/7cf558d4.jpg So get yourself a good wheel brush and stay on top of them if you have a lot of brake dust. I’ve found NOTHING which really keeps it off, but I can tell you that putting a sealant on them does help make them easier to clean. Waxing doesn’t really help because it just gets too hot and it vaporizes in a couple days. Wheel Waxes don’t really help either. I’ve used sprays, jellies, waxes, sealants, voodoo, and everything else I can think of. The only thing that works is cleaning them regularly. Let me know if you find anything else that really works because I’ve been stumped. Fortunately I don’t buy cars with this problem, so I haven’t had to deal with it much. I do still maintain my rims though because I know if I make judgments about car care based on their condition, then it is likely that others do as well. I do intent on selling my vehicles at some point, so keeping them looking good is a high priority for me. _________________________________________ “Cleanliness becomes more important as godliness becomes more unlikely.” O C D E T A I L S . C O M OCDETAILS BLOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateviliams Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 its very difficult to remove brake dust but brake pads can protect the wheels not to much but some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 edit: Never mind, missed the first part where you said "Autogeek at SEMA" edit2: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/OCDetails/CorollaDetail/DSC06925.jpgWhich brush is that specifically? What do you mean by "SEMA"? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 What tire shine is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.sane Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Amazing work as always. Purchased the Eagle One A2Z wheel cleaner and Eagle One Wet tire shine based on your post a while back (or maybe even your website). Both products work great! I've never seen a wheel cleaner lift off so much dust/dirt from the tires/wheels and I like the semi-gloss/matte look of the tire shine. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCDetails Posted August 26, 2011 Author Share Posted August 26, 2011 edit: Never mind, missed the first part where you said "Autogeek at SEMA" edit2: Which brush is that specifically? What do you mean by "SEMA"? Thanks Google SEMA and you'll see. It's a huge aftermarket auto part expo in Vegas at the end of October. It is for industry professionals only and not open to the public, so everybody there is a serious car person. I love that week of the year.... There isn't any tire shine on those tires yet. That is just water. But when I do use tire shine I use Eagle One Wet. The secret to using any tire shine is to apply it when the tires are dry. If you apply it to wet tires then it will sling all over the place and it will wear off in a week. Apply it to dry tires and it will look perfect and stay put. Just a tip... _________________________________________ “Cleanliness becomes more important as godliness becomes more unlikely.” O C D E T A I L S . C O M OCDETAILS BLOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Ohh, I see. Looks pretty cool. But more importantly, what brush is that specifically? I need to pick up a good brush from somewhere... this piece of crap from walmart is probably scratching up my clearcoat. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCDetails Posted August 26, 2011 Author Share Posted August 26, 2011 I'll warn you.. they ain't cheap, but quality rarely is. http://autogeek.commerce-search.net/search?catalog=autogeek&query=brush&x=0&y=0 Autogeek really does a great job of testing and using the products they sell, so that is why I typically recommend them. They are also officially the 3000 lb gorilla in the industry, so it is where most people shop these days anyway unless you are brand loyal to something they don't carry. They really do try and carry products which meet a very high level of quality, so you can't go wrong ordering with them. While stuff like this brush is expensive, it is worth it. I've been using this brush heavily for the past two years and I probably would have spent at least double if I had to replace the cheap ones every time they broke. Sometimes I wouldn't even get five cars out of a brush before it became too dangerous to use, so this really is one of those lifetime products that you'll keep around. _________________________________________ “Cleanliness becomes more important as godliness becomes more unlikely.” O C D E T A I L S . C O M OCDETAILS BLOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Are you talking about the red ones? I found that already on the first page of your link, but I'm looking for the one with the black handle and yellow bristles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 You mentioned that German cars put out a lot of brake dust. Is it really that or just that 90% of the owners have no clue that they should be washing there cars. Same for most Volvo owners. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCDetails Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 Are you talking about the red ones? I found that already on the first page of your link, but I'm looking for the one with the black handle and yellow bristles. Ah... sorry about that. I misunderstood. That would be this guy. I am not sure where to find those anymore. I bought that back in 06 or 07 from a website that was clearing out all their Meguiar's stuff. I haven't seen them on the shelves anywhere since. _________________________________________ “Cleanliness becomes more important as godliness becomes more unlikely.” O C D E T A I L S . C O M OCDETAILS BLOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCDetails Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 You mentioned that German cars put out a lot of brake dust. Is it really that or just that 90% of the owners have no clue that they should be washing there cars. Same for most Volvo owners. Probably that too. lol You know what the difference is between a porcupine and a BMW owner? On a porcupine the pricks are on the outside. lol Sorry. That is just my slam on people who buy German cars. It may be a stereotype, but you know with BMW guys anyway it is mostly true. (I think I just lost some friends with that comment lol) _________________________________________ “Cleanliness becomes more important as godliness becomes more unlikely.” O C D E T A I L S . C O M OCDETAILS BLOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 German cars tend to weigh ALOT and thus need lots of brakes. I just got a foam cone with a microfiber cloth on the outside. It's my new favorite wheel tool. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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