specialB Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLP-HCcX9as]The 450 HP Crawford Performance Turbo BRZ - /TUNED - YouTube[/ame] @3:24 If it's so much nicer than the EJ motor why not swap this thing in next time around? Wonder how much work it would really involve. Already did a regular EJ swap, that wasn't horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-2 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Will it just drop right in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chato Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 neat idea, so much to like about that engine. even if it just drops in, as far as I can tell, the FA20 DIT only comes with CVT in japan, so your probably looking at long-block, all accessories (alternator, PS, AC), ecu/harness swap, tranny + install. holy $$$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialB Posted September 21, 2013 Author Share Posted September 21, 2013 It would be a lot but I think a fantastic swap idea...that or just get a brz lol but f*******k that Sent from my HTC6500LVW using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strizzy Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Isn't the trans bolt pattern different? My bad luck build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 neat idea, so much to like about that engine. even if it just drops in, as far as I can tell, the FA20 DIT only comes with CVT in japan, so your probably looking at long-block, all accessories (alternator, PS, AC), ecu/harness swap, tranny + install. holy $$$$. The engine itself is mated with either a CVT or a MT. The best bet would be to get complete transmission and wiring from a newer Forester with that engine. But it will be expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialB Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 I'm in no rush, I only have about 20K on my current build but when these drivetrains become more available from wrecked foresters and the new impreza wrx I would love to jump on that project. see how many decades I can keep this 4th gen alive, its just too beautiful to part with...that is unless the new Legacy GT blows me away that much, I'm keeping my hopes up. http://lh5.ggpht.com/-HHcuZh_Ume8/Ue291eF6TcI/AAAAAAANjGY/76_r_RUm26o/2015-Subaru-Legacy-Carscoops-%252523_thumb%25255B1%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 no not possible .. lol Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoozeRS05 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Isn't the trans bolt pattern different? This ^.. Will it drop in and bolt up to my MT? Once the components become common use the prices will come down for the parts, but will it fit? EB's Subaru journal - 2005 LegacyGT Wagon & 2014 Forester FB25 (2008 specB - RIP) IG@legacygtliving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 ^ nope can't do it ! Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialB Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 ^^ do explain knowledgeable one. maybe it wont mate to an older tranny like ours (but i sure would like confirmation on that) but once parts become more available from a possible MT forester or the likes...nothings impossible with $$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 nope no way no how ! Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 i hope u guys know i put a buick v6 in a legacy bolted to the subaru tranny .. so at worst you may need an adapter plate or two .. as for ecu stuff , if the crank and cam triggers are the same it could be simply wired in and tuned. if the cam signal is different you could get away with a 2.5i ecu but not have the avcs functioning. or use megasquirt for real time tuning and there is a circuit board that will spoof the crank and cam signals to make the stock ecm happy to allow all the gauge cluster cruise control and a/c to function as stock. Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialB Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 i hope u guys know i put a buick v6 in a legacy bolted to the subaru tranny .. so at worst you may need an adapter plate or two .. as for ecu stuff , if the crank and cam triggers are the same it could be simply wired in and tuned. if the cam signal is different you could get away with a 2.5i ecu but not have the avcs functioning. or use megasquirt for real time tuning and there is a circuit board that will spoof the crank and cam signals to make the stock ecm happy to allow all the gauge cluster cruise control and a/c to function as stock. I did follow your build and was very impressed frank_ster. Before I get all uppity and excited about this project I'm really anticipating the release of the new legacy at the tokyo motor show next month. Would be silly to do all that work if the new legacy is going to be a legitimate player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 i'll just put this here.. Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialB Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 soo much win here, where did this come from?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 FullBOOST shared Toyota Australia's photo. facebook Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Do we have a chart telling which engine that matches with which gearbox? Even going back to really old stuff like the EA81 and 4MT. (OK, I wouldn't mate an EA81 with a high torque CVT anyway - it would be a waste of energy! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 ^ i would think they keep the same bellhousing unless they are forced to change it to make room for something else. Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 The FA motors still have the same bolt pattern to the transmissions as far as I know. The part that will be an issue is the wiring harness and ecu unless you go fully aftermarket/stand alone ECU. -Mike Paisan http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/91072632.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/145749898/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/133406601.jpg http://www.whiteline.com.au/images/logos/perf1.jpg 11+ Years Maintaining, Modifying and Educating TriState Subaru Enthusiasts. Now we have an Online Catalog where you can purchase Parts! AZPParts.com Like us on Facebook! | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1 (2971) |AIM: AZP Installs "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Yea probably just because of cam position sensors may be different The crank trigger still 36-2-2-2 ? Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexjapan Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I like the FA20 motor, and we are definitely making good power turbocharging the BRZ/FR-S, but I don't think it would go into the 4th gen Legacy all that easy. Still doesn't make the easy torque of the 2.5-liter, either - no replacement for displacement in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Fa 2.0 heads on a ej255? Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I like the FA20 motor, and we are definitely making good power turbocharging the BRZ/FR-S, but I don't think it would go into the 4th gen Legacy all that easy. Still doesn't make the easy torque of the 2.5-liter, either - no replacement for displacement in that regard. A motor with no low end torque and lag is sucks ville in a automatic ! Yes hence the 3.8 turbo in mine ! Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialB Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 Fa 2.0 heads on a ej255? Now that would be wild, direct injection EJ255 Lol GL getting those two parts to mate up. That would be like putting the heads off a new 5.0 coyote motor on an old 5.0 mustang block. Sent from my HTC6500LVW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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