Ohitsspencer Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/05/subaru-fa20-turbo-engine-debuts-start-dreaming-about-a-boosted-brz/ Check it out. Looks like they moved the turbo down below. That should be fun. But, 296hp from a 2.0 from the factory, similar to Evo. Not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontGT Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Comes w/CVT exclusively in the Legacy..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohitsspencer Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Unfortunately, yes. However, it does say it should be fitted with a manual gearbox as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesubie Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 An owner of one from Japan posted it over at nasioc in the News & Rumors forum (can't link nasioc from work). Legacy DIT thread (Direct Injection Turbo). If we enthusiasts like it, that means that it probably won't be available in N. America. Hopefully, I'm wrong. -Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted May 9, 2012 Moderators Share Posted May 9, 2012 FWIW, cars101.com 'confirmed' the addition of the 2.0L DIT engine for the 2013 WRX a little while back... 12/10/11 Will the next WRX please stand up.. 2013 WRX 2.0L turbo coming 'Subaru has confirmed that the next-generation Subaru WRX, due as a 2013 model, will be powered by a turbocharged version of the new FA direct-injection, 2.0-liter flat-four that debuted in the BRZ sports car. There’s no word from Subaru on what will be under the next STI’s hood, but it’ll almost certainly be a more powerful iteration of the WRX’s 2.0-liter. The current WRX features a 265-hp, turbocharged 2.5-liter flat four, and despite the lower displacement, we don’t expect the next car’s output to be any lower. As for the next STI, we already know it will pack at least 300 hp. Both cars will move to a dedicated platform when they are redesigned instead of being modified Imprezas as they have been in the past. Happily, the muscular duo is expected to weigh less than the current models. If you’re wondering whether the turbocharged 2.0-liter will show up in the BRZ or its Scion FR-S twin, you’re not alone. Subaru says it won’t, but we don’t believe them." from Car and Driver "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohitsspencer Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Oh cool! I just like that this one has a few more specifics. Like the actual power output, which is 296, and that sounds like that's what the legacy is getting, which is huge! I thought it was interesting, so I posted it up here. Sorry if I was coming off as the first to know, because that is definitely not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasopoliS Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 This thread should be in the News & Rumors section. Those are quite nice Hp and torque ratings if they are true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohitsspencer Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Mods, please move to News & Rumors! I was contemplating on where to put it, but News & Rumors does make more sense. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 DI is, by far, the biggest news here. Although, a CVT on a turbo vehicle does open a whole new gamut of possibilities. Goodbye turbo lag? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohitsspencer Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Let's hope, that'd be great! I never have been a huge fan of the CVT. I like some feel of gear change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassnectar Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 if they do a proper cvt it will be an amazing car and could achieve pretty good gas mileage/ performance if they do it right. I still think it would be a funner car to drive with a 6 speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Cool. Doubt you'll ever see this in a USDM Legacy from the factory though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohitsspencer Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 I don't know, because they said it may be in the Scion FR-S which is the USDM version of the FT86. So, I think it may get it, but again, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Tell this to the guy that killed himself when he learned that the LGT was being discontinued for 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zambazil Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 .. still think it would be a funner car to drive with a 6 speed Also hoping a manual transmission would be an option when the new engine gets here.. wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/05/subaru-fa20-turbo-engine-debuts-start-dreaming-about-a-boosted-brz/ Check it out. Looks like they moved the turbo down below. That should be fun. But, 296hp from a 2.0 from the factory, similar to Evo. Not bad. Old news: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/legacy-diti-185236.html and the turbo has been down below on the Legacy since the 2010 came out in 2009 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I don't know, because they said it may be in the Scion FR-S which is the USDM version of the FT86. So, I think it may get it, but again, who knows. It's slated to go in the 2013 WRX. Where it goes after that is anyone's guess. According to the rags, the WRX/STi is eventually supposed to break away from the Impreza in the next couple of years into its own car, with a 1.6 liter turbo for a most triumphant return to WRC. I'm assuming they didn't develop the FA20T strictly for JDM & EDM markets and a ~2 year run here in the US. I would imagine it'll find a home in a yet to be built Impreza GT or maybe a new Legacy GT. A turbo BRZ makes so much sense to me, and yet it goes against the engineer's design philosophies for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WraithAkaMrak Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 What are the chances that: A 2.0 DIT Legacy replaces both the 3.6R and now-gone GT in the U.S., with better fuel economy (w/ CVT), despite higher output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byll Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 2 issues: I will be surprised if North America sees a 296 HP turbo in a standard Legacy, with or without MT. A de-tuned turbo would not surprise me, in the future, but with CVT. I expect that small displacement turbos are where we are headed. I fear for the future of MT in larger cars, like the Legacy. SOA says that next year, they will only offer MT on the base model Legacy. They are simply following Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Ford (Fusion), and most others from America and Japan. Except for a few European makers, this is the norm. How nice it would be to have even a 225 HP turbo with MT in a standard Legacy. I suppose I can dream... Best. Byll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 parts wise, it would make sense to have one 6cyl, one N/A 4cyl and one Turbo 4cyl motor across all lines. 3 motors, same 3 ecu's, same headers. All they would need to do is adjust the ECU for drive-ability and transmission selection. Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmrdwn Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Comes w/CVT exclusively in the Legacy..? I know purists don't like the cvt, but the cvt and turbo are made for each other (if the cvt holds up). The cvt keeps the engine in the rev range and makes a turbo sing. That car would take of like a fighter jet. Always in the proper rev range for the turbo to put out max boost. I've owned at least five turbo cars over the years and can attest to the problems turbo lag and boost bleed off have for generate a smooth flow of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckseleven Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I know purists don't like the cvt, but the cvt and turbo are made for each other (if the cvt holds up). The cvt keeps the engine in the rev range and makes a turbo sing. That car would take of like a fighter jet. Always in the proper rev range for the turbo to put out max boost. I've owned at least five turbo cars over the years and can attest to the problems turbo lag and boost bleed off have for generate a smooth flow of power. +1. I love rowing through the gears, but would totally take the CVT/turbo combo for the reasons you state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmrdwn Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 +1. I love rowing through the gears, but would totally take the CVT/turbo combo for the reasons you state. Absolutely. Rowing through the gears is the way to go with a turbo in comparison to a traditional slush box. Think about what a turbo and cvt would be like though. Stay off the accelerator and the mpg would be great. Punch it and the turbo would spool up and boost would build and be constant right up to the top end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssbtech Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Meh. I love my Outback XT, but the new Subarus are so cheap and common looking I couldn't care less about what engine gets put in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted May 16, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted May 16, 2012 it be nice if some tuners chimed in on this motor and commented on its potential, especially mated with the CVT "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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