NormanAbsher Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I'm really curious what the difference between the two are.. I have a friend who says his xenons are so much better? Can someone help Me out here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanAbsher Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 Oops I hate the iPhone sometimes... Xenons vs HID's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rice_rocket Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Emm, they should be the same.. HID lights have Xenon gas in them. Unless you are talking about the "xenon halogen" which is just a bulb with a blue tint on the glass... no comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 xenon halogen - blue tinted halogens are just a ricing option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanAbsher Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 Well what I'm talking about is how like how BMWs have the bi xenons.. Are those any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FocuS Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I think the Bi-xenon option just means there are two sets of HIDs on the car...perhaps the low and high beams..or maybe the normal headlights and the fogs...? IDK much about BMWs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gire Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Thread title changed. And your friend is likely talking about plain old fashioned HID lighting. Some folks use the word 'xenon' as slang for HID. Car manufacturers often put the words "xenon headlights" in the sales brochure because most of the idiots in this world don't understand what "high intensity discharge lighting" really means. They read 'xenon' and they think "Hey, that there must be them fancy sparkly lights in them expensive cars!" Yes, his factory BMW HID system will be superior to your halogen set up in your Legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanAbsher Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 Thanks for the thread change.. And yea I know that they would be superior then my stock headlights, but I have 6000k HID's .. But thank you all for clearing this hid vs xenon question up for me.. That is what I figured but I wanted to be sure b4 I mKe any stupid comments!! Thank you everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gire Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 His OEM HID system is likely 4300K which is more pure white. Your 6000K system will be more blue and thus shittier in the rain. Plus the BMW housing is designed to work with HID lighting whereas our LGTs are designed for halogens and when a bolt in HID kit is installed, it is brighter, but not necessarily um... perfect. Don't even get me started on bolt-in 8K or 10K HID kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonts Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Don't even get me started on bolt-in 8K or 10K HID kits. Are you disappointed with the performance of yours ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabin Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Bi-xenon is accomplished with a single HID bulb. The hi/low beam is accomplished through a movable shield within the projector housing. When the high beams are activated, a solenoid moves the shield down and changes the way the light is dispersed onto the road. The basic system is no different than any other system, you still have your standard HID bulb and ballast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanAbsher Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 No not at all I absolutely love the hid kit I have.. I had never had them b4but there amazing! My friend just said the xenons were better and I really didn't wanna argue with out knowing the truth about what I'm arguing about.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Motion Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Bi-Xenon is just both high beam and low beam integrated into the same projector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underpowerd Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 No not at all I absolutely love the hid kit I have.. I had never had them b4but there amazing! My friend just said the xenons were better and I really didn't wanna argue with out knowing the truth about what I'm arguing about.. if he's saying his bi-xenon (or even oem hid) setup is better than your h7 hid kit, you shouldn't be doing any arguing xenon is just a gas they use in various bulbs, and doesn't really get at the heart of the issue any carhead would be apt to get into arguments about. hid systems are just that, a bunch of components coming together to do a job. to simplify things, your setup is like a farm team with an all-star DH. a bmw bi-xenon is like the dominican olympic squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illest Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Bi-xenon is accomplished with a single HID bulb. The hi/low beam is accomplished through a movable shield within the projector housing. When the high beams are activated, a solenoid moves the shield down and changes the way the light is dispersed onto the road. The basic system is no different than any other system, you still have your standard HID bulb and ballast. ^this is 100% true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illace Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Just to add... Your friend is right his "xenons" are better for the reasons stated above but "xenons" are not a different technology than the HID kit you have. They are both hids, he just has hid projectors which allow for optimal output. You are using a halogen projector that is not made for HIDs. The output of his headlights would not be much different with an oem bulbs, ballasts and ignitors or aftermarket kit (same bulb size). Obviously OEM has superior build quality which can affect light output but I am just talking in general they are comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Where I live Xenon is the same as HID, and all dealers state Xenon, not HID. Anyway - the '07 Outback I have has OEM bi-xenon headlights and then extra halogen lights for high beam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Xenon = HID. HID works very good in units with projector lenses, as all 4th and later version's have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 i simply put hid's in the highbeams i have the extra light when i need it and with its snowing i turn them off so i don't have 50 million bright shiny things in my feild of vision Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssbtech Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Xenon = HID Bi-Xenon = HID for low and high beam. Two different bulbs, one for low-beam and another for high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Xenon = HID Bi-Xenon = HID for low and high beam. Two different bulbs, one for low-beam and another for high. Correction for the Bi-Xenon - it's a single bulb that is electromagnetically shifted for different focus between high and low beam. If it were two separate the heat-up time would make them almost useless in traffic. "Bi-Xenon" http://www.xenonkungen.se/H4-bi-xenon-35W-50W.jpg "Normal" http://www.xenonkungen.se/D2R-Philips-lampor.jpg Notice the shielding part on the right lamp - it's for reflector use. So if you are going to use them in a reflector they shall be designated D2R instead of D2S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTDogg MA Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Is there a mod that can be done to have the lows stay on when flicking or locking the high beams on? That would be easier on the ballasts of HID kits. I checked around here this morning and couldn't find anything. Found plenty dealing with DRLs and fogs, but nothing like I mentioned. Thanks, Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRSCobra Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 My lows stay on with the highs, only the fogs go out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumfoo1 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I'm glad i'm not really picky about headlights nor do i want to risk the target fixation problem of being the one guy that has BRIGHT ASS WHITE lights at night in the line of 100s of cars with incandescent yellows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTDogg MA Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 My lows stay on with the highs, only the fogs go out. Awesome, thanks. I hadn't checked, just assumed they went out with the highs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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