EPLegacyGT Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Hey, Today I just went stage 1 91 with a Cobb AP v.2. I dont know if its me but its seems as if I have to press the pedal much further before the revs start building. Power is increased for sure on top end but I find the Stock map is more responsive on pedal feel. Let me know if its a setting on the AP i need to change or if its just me. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedirtae09 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I went to stage 1 over the weekend also... Im not sure how my settings compare to yours but Ive been feeling the extra bit of power. I definetly feel it around the 40-70mph range. Ive also seen a slight increase in my miles per gallon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPLegacyGT Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 Oh yeah, ill agree with you on that the pull is much better but do you find that you need to press the pedal a little further before its starts building revs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedirtae09 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 i was too busy watching my rpms and speed... i'll pay attention to that on the way home from work today... i'll let you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyjr Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Let the computer assimilate and learn then it should be okay. Even car computers have hiccups when they go thru digestion. Throttle response should improve with a proper stage 1 tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr. pepper Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Cobb specifically states in the LGT AccessPORT manual that their map has, "Revised Electronic Throttle mapping (BASE MAP CHANGE). We did this to improve the throttle response and remove some delays present. It took some tweaking to find a setting that gave the response we were after without making the car feel "jumpy". Note that we DID NOT simply trick you into feeling more response by opening the throttle more aggressively. Instead, we changed the delays in how the throttle actually reacted to your right foot in an effort to reduce some of the "drive by wire" feel." If anything, your throttle should feel more responsive, granted, however, it does take the car some time to get used to being stage 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPLegacyGT Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 Ill see if my map is up to date I just downloaded it last week but ill double check to make sure I have that same revision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedirtae09 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Oh yeah, ill agree with you on that the pull is much better but do you find that you need to press the pedal a little further before its starts building revs? i can def say it hasnt drastically improved but from what everyone is saying i guess we just have to give the car some time to adjust and calibrate. if there isnt any noticable difference... worst case scenario, we can always just sell it? get some actual engine mods... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
at7000ft Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Noticed no diff in throttle response with stage 1 (and a CBE), just a bit more power, no more hesitation, and .3 mpg improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moncur_6 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 For my tune I had a local guy do a specific map for my car and have been satisfied ever since, but I would just make sure your map is up to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas569 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 go stage 2 if you want to feel a nite and day difference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightspeed98 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 i'm loving stage 1. been so for few months. top end's improved too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
at7000ft Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Am looking forward to stage 2 when this damn 60,000 mi. warranty is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightspeed98 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 60k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shopper Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 i got the 100k so i know you feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedz Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 maybe check which map youre running according to the gas you get cause i know im CA you have to run the CA map for it to work well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDowell Performance Tunin Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 For my tune I had a local guy do a specific map for my car and have been satisfied ever since, but I would just make sure your map is up to date. Sorry for thread jacking, but you should feel a big difference in your low end tq with a stage 1 tune, especially since you have an 05-06 Legacy, which usually is a bit stonger at stage 1 than the newer models (stage 2 is different). Tuned a guy, just stage 1, recently and his car is making about 30 extra wtq and at 3,200 RPM he is making close to 50 wtq more than stock. You should feel a pretty decent difference, with a good tune. Moncur, how's the car feeling? The ecu should be settled in by now. www.facebook.com/mcdowelltuning [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Click Here for Stage1, Stage2 and Stage3 Tuning and eTuning Info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPLegacyGT Posted July 4, 2010 Author Share Posted July 4, 2010 I feel the power difference and pull difference. I was only wondering what my problem is at idle. Is there a way of following this and pin pointing what the problem might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDowell Performance Tunin Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 how long ago and about how many miles have you driven since going stage1? www.facebook.com/mcdowelltuning [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Click Here for Stage1, Stage2 and Stage3 Tuning and eTuning Info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPLegacyGT Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 Lol, One week ago and I did 300miles. Yeah I know I should probably let the ECU learn the new map. The car only has 55,000kms so she's still fairly new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDowell Performance Tunin Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 That's still a good amount of time. The car should be adjusted, for the most part. www.facebook.com/mcdowelltuning [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Click Here for Stage1, Stage2 and Stage3 Tuning and eTuning Info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docsmitty Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I've been stage1 about a week now on an 09. The car drives SO MUCH smoother. No hesitation/surging with constant throttle input anymore. Pulls harder and better gas mileage as others mentioned, too. I haven't noticed a huge change in throttle response. On my 08 wrx, the stock throttle was awful... almost full throttle with the pedal maybe half way down. The LGT was nothing like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Throttle response decreased a bit in my car, but it was actually a welcome change. Low-speed, low-throttle jerkiness has drastically decreased. I am getting some MAJOR hesitation at the boost transition point, and below 3000 RPM the car feels like it's holding back a lot. I can only attribute it to the heat we've had recently and the fact that the A/C is on as well. Felt tons better when it was cooler outside. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark greenstein Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 I have an '08 Spec.B stock and using the Cobb AP for Stage 1. Warranty expiring and want to do next step. Was thinking of the Cobb Downpipe and have a few questions for the resident experts: - Will the Cobb SS 3" DP give a decent performance improvement? - Will it mate with the stock exhaust? - Is it better to replace the exhaust as well at the same time as the DP? - Any benefits from keeping the stock downpipe and just putting on a new exhaust (e.g., Subie's SPT exhaust)? Tks a ton!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonts Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 I have an '08 Spec.B stock and using the Cobb AP for Stage 1. Warranty expiring and want to do next step. Was thinking of the Cobb Downpipe and have a few questions for the resident experts: - Will the Cobb SS 3" DP give a decent performance improvement? - Will it mate with the stock exhaust? - Is it better to replace the exhaust as well at the same time as the DP? - Any benefits from keeping the stock downpipe and just putting on a new exhaust (e.g., Subie's SPT exhaust)? Tks a ton!!!! First of all .... no expert here but I do have some experience. I'm running a Cobb DP for a couple years now. The one problem you may have is that a Cobb DP may be difficult to find as I believe they were dropped from production. DP with stage 2 tune will definitely give you some performance improvement. The Cobb DP will mate with the stock exhaust. A catback is NOT necessary and won't do much in the way of performance (on stock turbo) .... only sound. Keeping the stock DP and changing your catback will only give you sound with little to no performance benefit. If you want the sound and performance replace the entire TBE (ie. DP and catback). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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