New 2005-2006 Legacy GT and Outback XT SF Intake Maps Now Available

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COBB Tuning SF Intake calibrations are now available for your 2005-2006 Legacy GT and Outback XT! The new Stage 1+SF or Stage 2+SF maps can be downloaded from the Off-The-Shelf Map Database for your specific model year and octane level. Then you can easily transfer them to your AccessPORT using AP Manager and Reflash your car in only a few minutes. These new maps utilize a custom MAF calibration to get the full performance out of the COBB Tuning SF intake for your manual or automatic transmission Legacy GT or Outback XT. As always, if you have any questions, please call us at 866-922-3059 or email tech@cobbtuning.com.

Interesting. Any idea how these maps would work with a different intake...say a K&N Typhoon...? Wonder how different the MAP scaling would be for the K&N be compared to the SF intake?

Or say... AVO intake.. haha

how much of an increase is it with the intake and tune?

I need to ask...why the sudden change to SF specific maps? In the past, Cobb advertised that OTS maps were for stock intakes OR SF intakes. Is there a change in the SF intake or is the scaling far off from stock?

I've scaled this intake on a couple different occasions. I have a lot of data around 4.4 and 4.5 volts as that is where my car maxes out in different weather. That area needed to be about 12% higher than stock for reference. Most of my cruise range is within a percent or 2 of stock.

 

That 10-12% off at higher rpms isn't a huge deal if using conservative or near stock open loop fueling, it even adds a bit of power as it leans it out some. Still it's better to have the intake more dialed in, and then actually lean out the open loop fuel table to get a more desired afr.

The MAF scaling might apply to a different intake, but you'll need a wideband and some monitoring to verify it will work properly or not. We highly recommend using these maps only with the COBB SF Intake.

 

The new maps were created to properly scale the MAF sensor. In some dyno testing, running tunes for the stock intake with our COBB SF Intake caused the car to run lean, so these maps will make the car run properly.

 

Ian

I need to ask...why the sudden change to SF specific maps? In the past, Cobb advertised that OTS maps were for stock intakes OR SF intakes. Is there a change in the SF intake or is the scaling far off from stock?

 

Really, Cobb said they could use the same map on the stock or aftermarket Cobb SF intake?

 

I meticulously scaled both the stocker and my current (Cobb SF) intake and the scalars are not the same. Was Cobb just content to let fuel trims crudely rescale the intake over time? What about the guy on crap 91 fuel who buys a new Cobb SF intake, slaps it on and starts going WOT before fuel trims adjust... scary.

For the 2002-2007 WRX/STI, the SF Intake and stock intake maps are exactly the same. But for every other car, the SF intake requires specific mapping.

 

Ian

Cobb still does tuning? My buddy with an STi got turned away when he asked the Austin shop about his problems with stg1 OTS Cobb map... like 3 weeks ago.

Right now, the Austin location is only R&D and just doesn't have the space or manpower to dedicate to customer tuning and shop work. But, our locations in Plano, Portland, and SoCal specialize in custom tuning, parts install, and issue diagnosis.

 

What kind of issues was your friend having with his STi? We can definitely try to help diagnose what may be going on with a few datalogs.

 

Ian

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He was logging knock, thats about all I know.

 

Not gonna lie, if he goes as far as plano, I will tell him to go to awdtuning... just sayin'

 

I thought you guys had a dyno and the whole 9yards when you opened in Austin?

Really, Cobb said they could use the same map on the stock or aftermarket Cobb SF intake?

 

I meticulously scaled both the stocker and my current (Cobb SF) intake and the scalars are not the same. Was Cobb just content to let fuel trims crudely rescale the intake over time? What about the guy on crap 91 fuel who buys a new Cobb SF intake, slaps it on and starts going WOT before fuel trims adjust... scary.

From our review section: "The COBB Tuning SF Intake for the Subaru Legacy GT utilizes our custom design to maintain optimal flow while minimizing turbulence found with many aftermarket intake systems. This configuration provides the most consistent power for everyday use while at the same time allowing some audible performance feedback! . For your convenience, the SF Intake system is compatible with our Stage 1 and Stage 2 OTS (off the shelf mapping) provided with our AccessPORT ECU device.

 

The COBB Tuning Heat Shield was developed to capture the cool air supplied to the SF Intake through the factory intake snorkle. Constructed of 16 ga. Aluminum, the heat shield consists of a one piece surround, directional lid, and stainless fasteners that help reduce a loss of power that could be robbed from your motor by a heated intake charge."

 

http://legacygt.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=314&sort=2&cat=44&page=1

 

I guess all the guys assuming its the same have been warned.

If you read the map notes for the AP for the LGT it specifically says stock intake.

Question: i am running Stage 1 91 with SF intake, Can i use the Stage 1 93 as realtime or i would need a reflash?... I had this question because i didn't see any specific real time maps available for Stage 1 93.

 

SF Intake maps (No realtime maps) - http://www.cobbtuning.com/AccessPORT-Off-The-Shelf-Maps-s/40100.htm#/v/accessport/maps/subaru/lgt/LGT-Maps-06-SF-Intake

 

Stock Intake maps (With realtime maps) - http://www.cobbtuning.com/Maps-Archives-s/70671.htm#/v/accessport/maps/subaru/original/V1-LGT-Maps-06-M-Stock-Intake

 

Thanks

Hari

Just download the map in the first link and reflash your car. The only difference between the two is if your car looses power, the realtime will delete off your ECU, reflash will not.

let's take this scenario... currently i am running economy mode and i want to load stage 1 93... Will the 93 map from COBB site work as real time map or it needs a complete re-flash?... i dont want to re-flash as most of the driving is highways.

 

Thanks

Hari

Why don't you want to reflash? You have to plug in the green connectors anyways and it takes 30 more seconds. Plus I thought the eco maps were dangerous.

The Reflash map changes all of the tuning tables and should be as close to your modification level as possible. Run the Stage1+SF as your Reflash map and the Economy Mode SF as your Realtime map.

 

Ian

Thanks for all the information.

 

Can anyone post the safe/acceptable values for important parameters in the datalog, i want to get a datalog and make sure its all safe.

 

Thanks

Hari

post the logs here so we can read them, then we will make a suggestion

sure, i have some logs from testing the AP last week, this was regular local and highway driving for around 20 miles... changing gears around 4k.

 

Are these logs sufficient or should i do 3rd gear runs till red line.

 

Thanks

Hari

Thanks for all the information.

 

Can anyone post the safe/acceptable values for important parameters in the datalog, i want to get a datalog and make sure its all safe.

 

Thanks

Hari

 

We got you covered

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjEGZ-4dsDY]AskCOBB - Subaru Data Logging - YouTube[/ame]

Thank you for the video... got busy at work so didn't try until last week...

 

I am having some problem here now... i am seeing lots of hesitation in the car around 2500-3000 rpm, this is in all the gears. once passed 3000rpm the turbo comes in and drives fine... there is no lag/hesitation.

 

I spoke with someone in AZP installs and he had asked me to go back to stock tune (uninstall ap) to confirm this is not a vacuum leak, the stock tune was actually good, there was little lag when changing gears in low rpm but it went away after 2500 rpm... drives fine in all gears.

 

I have tried both 91+SF and 93+SF maps, there is more hesitation in 93.

 

What do you guys think?

 

Thanks

HAri