thesalboy Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Am I crazy or have these lower control arm bushings failed? SoA says they are AOK! 34K miles. http://www.tcwerner.com/Subie/FrontControlArm-Rear-Pass.jpgAm http://www.tcwerner.com/Subie/FrontControlArm-Rear-Drivers.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhBe1 Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I'd put them in the Failed column. Along with SoA. 06LOB2.5i MT, JDMRSB, GYTTs, HPS, LGT Mufflers & Leather Wheel, SubiMomo Knob, Inalfa Moonroof, Clutch Switch Bypass, DeDRLd, DeChimed, & Straight Headrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboa113 Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 34k miles and they look like that? I haven't seen mine but.. I'd say thats a failed/failing part. I've seen cars that are 20 years old with better looking bushings. if they are failed, I'd also say that its permature. I'd take it to another dealer? "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 That's interesting... the service manual says to inspect for any cracks or damage, but doesn't say to replace if found. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggs753 Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 mine look worse at 42000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Like most things here, this topic has been beat to death and then beat to death again. Some dealers will replace them, most won't. There is not indication that the cracks affect performance in any way. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 ^ Yeah, the bushings aren't stellar to begin with... upgrade to a poly version (offset for increased caster, or not) and be done with it. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesalboy Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 Do you work for a dealer or something, rao? You sound just like them. I have a front end vibration at highway speeds on grooved concrete, and the suspension turns to jello when turning on bumpy roads. Attached is the BS "Tech Tips" article they gave me that says that failed bushings are no problemo. I especially love the "all the way through" line. I have this thing called a "warranty." It covers brake pads and windshield wipers but not this? I can assure you some lawyer told them that no one would die from this, so they can tell their customers to f%&$ off. No performance impact? Tell that to this guy: http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108981 Now I have to go through all these other dead horses about which poly LCA bushing is best, and while I'm at it I should just replace my struts and springs (cuz stock are junk, of course!), and which of those is best, and then there's ball joints, and then, and then, and then!!! But then, I got a BMW beater for half the price, so I should just shut up and deal.TechTipsReLCA.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Rao is just the cynic person on this forum when it comes to wear and tear on the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifbiker Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 You could also consider upgrading the bushings to the Group N compound. I have these bushings and hope to install them over the next few weeks. The nice thing about Group N is they are still rubber, downside is you won't gain camber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 You could also consider upgrading the bushings to the Group N compound. I have these bushings and hope to install them over the next few weeks. The nice thing about Group N is they are still rubber, downside is you won't gain camber. So where are the part numbers for Group N bushings???? :spin::spin: Pictures? Amazingly STI Group N's webpage doesn't list them, only spherical bearing replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTATV Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 i need new lower control arm bushings myself, where can I get them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 AVO, Superpro. I had 75K on mine before I just changed them out. The bushing design is not unique to Subaru and other car makers have the same position on replacing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbarto74 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 mine are shot, I get a bad klunking noise when I back off the driveway, i looked under while doing my brakes and the are all shredded. Where can I get new bushings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifbiker Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I bought the Group N bushings from Rallispec and purchased the 09 WRX front most LCA bushing from my local Subaru dealer. While you have the LCA off might as well replace both considering the front most bushing is also very compliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axolotl81 Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I don't mean to thread jack, but will the LCAs cause problems with steering? I'm just wondering because after my allignment my car pulls to the right yet the allignment specs are all within factory specs. I haven't checked my LCAs yet, but I'm gonna assume they have some pretty bad wear on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesalboy Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 Grooved or uneven pavement pulls my wagon all over the place. With the steering wheel turned all the way to the opposite side of the car, jack up a corner so that the wheel is off the ground. With the suspension unloaded you should be able to clearly see your rear LCA bushings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifbiker Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I've had 2 Legacy wagons and the dealer could never align the car so that the went straight with the steering wheel being straight. A Honda dealer did the best job. We did a Smart Strings alignment a few months ago and got it dead on. Search the NASIOC site for home alignments, its not as good as the Smart String but it will get you close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCType-S Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 ifbiker, can you tell me where did you bring your car to have alignment service.thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifbiker Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Victory Honda on Ann Arbor Rd did the best job among the shops, the steering wheel was just off center when the car was going straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCType-S Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 good to know. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SATSFYD Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Looks Like I will be doing this... take'n notes. **There are two types of people in the world, those who build horsepower and those who buy it. Which one are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowteree Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 ive only had this car for a year and i can already say subaru has one of the worst factory bushing designs ive come across. As far as comfortable and soft, yes they are that, but so brittle that they fail before most legacys hit 100k. Switch em out with some urethane ones and you're set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTATV Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 I have had the Perrin LCA bushing setup for the last 40k miles and I love them. Highly reccomended. I have the offset ones that require an alignment but they make centered ones now too... http://perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/276/162_large.jpg http://perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/276/420_large.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naimouasta Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 ive only had this car for a year and i can already say subaru has one of the worst factory bushing designs ive come across. As far as comfortable and soft, yes they are that, but so brittle that they fail before most legacys hit 100k. Switch em out with some urethane ones and you're set my cousin has an acura TL. i believe 06, and they have the same issues. http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=707888 mounted very similar to the way the legacy is. and notice the tears. for the updated TL in 2009, they changed the way the control arm mounts at this location, forward, instead of up and down. http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r141/ricefarmer71/driver.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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