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Hello all,

 

 

So I'm making a thread to track progress of my build as well as post up questions I have that I can't find by spending time searching or researching.

 

 

Here's where I'm at:

 

87,000 miles

2005 manual

BURNING OIL LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER

(1.5 qts every 3000 miles and getting worse)

 

 

I'm picking up an ej25 block tomorrow in NH that needs new pistons. I plan on opening it up and replacing bearings and putting Wiseco pistons in.

 

I also have the following laying around:

FMS FMIC

KN Intake

VF52 Turbo

(soon: grimmspeed ebcs, dw65c fuel pump)

And I'll need a Spec stg 2+ clutch for the build.

 

 

I'm hoping to have the stage 3 build done in the summer.

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First question:

 

For the block, what size bolts can I buy to thread into the bellhousing to secure it to the engine stand?

 

 

And the correct bolt size is m10x1.25 for the starter bolt on the drivers side, the bOlt hole below that and the bolt hole on upper passenger side of the block, there appears to be other different sized bolt holoes lower on the block that I wil have to figure out later, but for now m10x1.25 is the elusive number. =D

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Is it common for people installing bearings / pistons to have the rotating assembly balanced? I haven't read much on builds regarding balancing. Mainly just replacing and installing.

 

http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/05-lgt-2-5l-externally-balanced-internally-balancedi-96708.html?t=96708&highlight=balance+rotating+assembly

 

This isn't so hard.

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If you're getting a crank from someone, inspect the bearing surfaces for grooves, if your fingernail gets stuck on any grooves you should discard. If they are all smooth you can safely assume the crank is still in balance in and of itself.

 

This is assuming catastrophic failure hasn't happened in the engine and it's just a shortblock with, say, ringland failure. If the shortblock had a spun bearing, I'd be weary about the crank bearing condition pending closer inspection. Once you choose your forged piston of choice, and they are installed properly, there shouldn't be a balance issue. Same with new bearing install, main and rod bearings.

 

Depending on how long the donor block was driven with a cracked ringland depicts the likely condition of the cyl wall and how badly, if, scored and scraped. You could get lucky and have a very superficial scoring which a cyl honing would suffice. Anything deeper would need machining and bore of 100mm....but if it were my car, I'd find a block with better condition walls and keep 99.5's in there after a quick hone and rehatch, that's my personal opinion.

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nice, what part of "boston"? LMK if you ever need a hand. I have a block in my basement waiting for me too. Did the crank walk in and out at all? If you plan on high revs or over 350whp I would def balance the assembly. Also make sure you double check clearances if you are putting together the lower end on your own.
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Double check the valves that are in your engine now for burning, its common if cars have been on factory tune for awhile, just something to be prepared for. I would clean as many connectors as possible with compressed air and spray them with PB, they are a bear to get apart for some reason on these car. If your turbo at any point was leaking any coolant make sure the cam sensor connector and tgv bolts near it arent completely rotted out.
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Ya I heard for the 300-400 hp range open or closed deck didn't make a difference. Do you suggest otherwise?

 

And I plan on rebuilding bottom end with ACL bearings, I wasn't sure about replacing the crank unless I take it to a machine shop and they say its warped or something.

 

I was going to have my heads refurbished at a machine shop.

 

I'm in the North Shore and I'd love a hand. I was planning on using either Mahle or Wiseco pistons. This is a daily driven car and I drive around 20,000 miles a year

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Find a good machine shop. Let them do what they do best. Inspect everything, check everything, they'll tell you if it needs to be bored and just honed, then buy pistons. They are matched to the hole they will go in. The shop will do measurements and hone or bore each cylinder to match the piston.

 

 

Unless you have the skills to rebuild a engine, I suggest you leave it to the Pro's.

 

After all, it's what they do

 

 

You'll need long 10mm X 1.25 bolts for the block to engine stand. I'm thinking 4" long, measure your engine stand and add a inch or more. you can use washers if they are to long.

305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD).  CHECK your oil, these cars use it.

 

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Before I proceed is the block I purchased appropriate for me setup seeing as its open deck?

 

Hopefully someone else will be able to chime in. I just wanted to raise a flag before a bunch of money was spent just to find out its the wrong block.

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the block you bought is an ej251, an N/A motor. all USDM turbo 2.5's are semi closed as far as I can tell. ej251, 252, 253, 254 were open N/A motors. ej25D (pre-251) open 2.5 blocks seem to have the notorious head gasket issue due to the flex of the cyl walls and the lack of semi-upright supports. they seem to be limited to around 10psi if boosted since compression ratio is around 10.1:1 with these n/a 2.5's.
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Live and learn. Fyi ... if you still need a machine shop at some point, I know Alberto at Motive knows a machine shop that is familiar with Subaru engines. From what I hear from him, there are a lot of shops that just won't deal with a Subie engine since it's horizontally opposed and the case splits in two. I think a lot of places just aren't set up for it. Check w/Berto though if needed. GLWS or build or whatever.
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Here is what the block should look like,

 

http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/got-some-new-stuff-engine-r-r-184106.html

 

Do yourself a favor and do it right the first time.

305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD).  CHECK your oil, these cars use it.

 

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I was curious myself. I googled semi closed versus closed and your answer will come right up. If its a Turbo block.You should be fine forged. I live in fall river and work in brockton. I'm always down for a day of wrench. Pm me and let me know what your up too on that thing.
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Okay so I was talking with a friend who has had machine work done in the past (he's in the mechanical engineering dept at my school and familiar with all that stuff). He was saying that it may be worth just having a machine shop weld it to be semi closed. Opinions? If I can pay to have the block cleaned up as well as welded to semi closed with some cast aluminum it may be worth my money.. Just want to see what you guys think.
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