TooBigToFit Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 So I've been recently having a delayed shift into 3rd gear. It tends to be more noticeable when you open up on the throttle a bit more. I've tried the relearn procedure using FreeSSM, and it kinda felt like it worked at first (though I left the AC on, against the original relearn instructions). But after a while I noticed it happening again, with the tachometer going up 200-300 RPM before it feels 3rd engages. I also will admit that during 2 separate occasions, I idiotically thought I was in manumatic, shifting into neutral while thinking I was upshifting then shifting back to drive, both times at around 35 MPH. I was concerned that this may have damaged the transmission, though I've been told that the TCU should be able to react to such a situation without damage. So what should I do? Try a relearn again, making sure the AC is off? Start shopping for another tranny? Or do I need go get it checked out? If so, by a tranny shop or by a dealership? And any dealership, or the one I got my car from, since there's may be a bit of the CPO warranty left? The only problem is the dealership I got it from is kinda far. Any help and thoughts are appreciated (and thank you all, in advance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 200-300 rpm raise is normal. the accidently going to neutral isnt soo bad. just be sure to let the engine calm down before putting it back into drive. Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G5892 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 So I've been recently having a delayed shift into 3rd gear. It tends to be more noticeable when you open up on the throttle a bit more. I've tried the relearn procedure using FreeSSM, and it kinda felt like it worked at first (though I left the AC on, against the original relearn instructions). But after a while I noticed it happening again, with the tachometer going up 200-300 RPM before it feels 3rd engages. I also will admit that during 2 separate occasions, I idiotically thought I was in manumatic, shifting into neutral while thinking I was upshifting then shifting back to drive, both times at around 35 MPH. I was concerned that this may have damaged the transmission, though I've been told that the TCU should be able to react to such a situation without damage. So what should I do? Try a relearn again, making sure the AC is off? Start shopping for another tranny? Or do I need go get it checked out? If so, by a tranny shop or by a dealership? And any dealership, or the one I got my car from, since there's may be a bit of the CPO warranty left? The only problem is the dealership I got it from is kinda far. Any help and thoughts are appreciated (and thank you all, in advance). What are the original re-learn instructions? Or is there a link I can see? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 its in the subaru service manual. something about accelerating with the throttle at 15% or something. but just driving around should make it learn anyways Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G5892 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 So the AC needs to be off during the relearn process? I looked in the manual, but couldn't find the instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreyna Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 sometimes my tranny doesnt shift from first to second, could the relearn fix this too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 ^ when its cold out and its the first time it shifts to 2nd it takes a while. Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenzoGT Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 i have noticed an issue with mine, when cold it bangs into second from first, a noticable hard shift... usually when under medium accel. i have changed fluid out, just a drain and fill,no filter, fluid looked real good, changed out at 55k. anyone else have this issue? now have 60k. does not do it in summer, i try not to drive as much as possible in winter. keeping er nice. thanks for any info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 i have noticed an issue with mine, when cold it bangs into second from first, a noticable hard shift... usually when under medium accel. i have changed fluid out, just a drain and fill,no filter, fluid looked real good, changed out at 55k. anyone else have this issue? now have 60k. does not do it in summer, i try not to drive as much as possible in winter. keeping er nice. thanks for any info yea they all do that. you can get around it by shifting to 2nd manually just after you start moving or before. but its not that its a super bad thing. Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreyna Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 ^ when its cold out and its the first time it shifts to 2nd it takes a while. yes it also does this too, but some times under medium acceleration when i up shift it does shift to second from first. its rare but it it does enough to bother me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 ^ so you are saying that if you don't manually shift the rpms will keep raising untill you hit the rev limiter? Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreyna Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 ^ yes if you put it that way. Every once in a while when manually shifting from first to second it will not shift whether its on the steering wheel buttons or the shift stick. I have to shift up again once I notice it's climbed higher than 500 rpms or else it will hit the rev limiter as you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Sport light start flashing after that happens ? Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreyna Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 ^ yes if you put it that way. Every once in a while when manually shifting from first to second it will not shift whether its on the steering wheel buttons or the shift stick. I have to shift up again once I notice it's climbed higher than 500 rpms or else it will hit the rev limiter as you said. this is but you mean up at like 5500 rpms .. you hit the buttin and nothing happens ? or happens slowly ? from first to 2nd i have to hit the button at like 5000 rpms. for it to shift at 6500. there is almost a second delay . and this is common with all stock subaru automatics. does this decribe what your issue is ? Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreyna Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 this is but you mean up at like 5500 rpms .. you hit the buttin and nothing happens ? or happens slowly ? from first to 2nd i have to hit the button at like 5000 rpms. for it to shift at 6500. there is almost a second delay . and this is common with all stock subaru automatics. does this decribe what your issue is ? sorta! lol well it hasnt done it to me recently since i dont drive it much because it needs an alignment and my lca bushing is torn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 ^ well thats normal i'm going to an aftermarket shift controler Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreyna Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 How would you do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.blackgt. Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 money, time, and knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 change ecm and dash for mt version .. then plug in aftermarket controler ... enjoy Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreyna Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Is this a better alternative to the hex mod valve body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 kind of need to do both. the valve body mod raises availiable pressure and larger orafices to fow faster to the clutches. and the tcm will allow it to shift when called upon. Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreyna Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 thank you so much for the info! gotta add this to my list, it would be a great thing to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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