coolbluelb Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 There are so many more downpipes available for the WRX than the Legacy. What specifically is it about the fitment that makes these pipes different? Specifically, what modifications are required to make a WRX downpipe fit the Legacy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j255c Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Our car is longer than the wrx, therefore the piping needs to be longer. Any wrx downpipe/up-pipe will fit our turbo, it just may need a extender piece. I forgot what website sells it but it exists. gimme a couple of hours ill find it for u 06 TB EVO IX SE stock turbo monster subaru hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostjunkie Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 The main problem with using a WRX downpipe is that our cars have less clearance to the firewall. It seems to vary from car to car, but in many cases a WRX downpipe will not clear the firewall. Some people have reported successfully fitting WRX downpipes, but I personally have tried a couple and they all hit my firewall. The length issues is the easy part, but if since most WRX downpipes will not clear the firewall that kind of kills it right there. If you really want to make it work, you will either have to dimple/dent the downpipe or whack away at the firewall and hope that you can dent it enough to gain some clearance. Given that there isn't very much space to swing a big hammer, it's pretty tough... I've tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedracerx Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 The main problem with using a WRX downpipe is that our cars have less clearance to the firewall. It seems to vary from car to car, but in many cases a WRX downpipe will not clear the firewall. Some people have reported successfully fitting WRX downpipes, but I personally have tried a couple and they all hit my firewall. The length issues is the easy part, but if since most WRX downpipes will not clear the firewall that kind of kills it right there. If you really want to make it work, you will either have to dimple/dent the downpipe or whack away at the firewall and hope that you can dent it enough to gain some clearance. Given that there isn't very much space to swing a big hammer, it's pretty tough... I've tried. Wow, I found just the opposite...my TurboXS 4" DP from my WRX fit like a charm...there is plenty of space to the firewall! As for the rest fitting up, no go - as the DP to HFC is 3" and the even though it was the right length, the stock flange wouldn't bolt up...way too small. I have an '06 5MT, so any other config. may vary. I did have to notch the transmission X-member at the DP to HFC flange just a wee bit, as under load, the flange came into contact. After the Dremel, no contact, no noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmo Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 If you want to use a WRX DP, I'd say this is probably the simplest option although I remember there was something of a fiasco with this company over a DP group buy last year I think. http://www.rallyperformance.com/Legacyhome.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostjunkie Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Wow, I found just the opposite...my TurboXS 4" DP from my WRX fit like a charm...there is plenty of space to the firewall! As for the rest fitting up, no go - as the DP to HFC is 3" and the even though it was the right length, the stock flange wouldn't bolt up...way too small. I have an '06 5MT, so any other config. may vary. I did have to notch the transmission X-member at the DP to HFC flange just a wee bit, as under load, the flange came into contact. After the Dremel, no contact, no noise. I said that some fit. I bought a Invidia WRX downpipe well over a year ago because someone on the forum said they got one to fit their LGT. No go, hit the firewall hard. Same thing with the Megan Racing WRX DP I tried. Like I said before some DP's will fit some LGT's. No guarantees one way or another. If you already have a WRX DP lying around, go ahead and try it out, but I wouldn't go out and buy a WRX downpipe thinking that it's a sure thing that you will be able to easily adapt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedracerx Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I said that some fit. I bought a Invidia WRX downpipe well over a year ago because someone on the forum said they got one to fit their LGT. No go, hit the firewall hard. Same thing with the Megan Racing WRX DP I tried. Like I said before some DP's will fit some LGT's. No guarantees one way or another. If you already have a WRX DP lying around, go ahead and try it out, but I wouldn't go out and buy a WRX downpipe thinking that it's a sure thing that you will be able to easily adapt it. My Bad...I just rechecked my TXS and see that there is only 1/2" clearance between the pipe and the farthest foward point of the firewall. Still, the TXS DP is 4" in dia, and there seems to be a ton more room than on the WRX. Like BoostJ said, if you have one lying around, might as well try it first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmorgan Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm using a WRX Stromung shorty divorced downpipe. No fit problems, but I did have to go and get a section welded into my cat back to take up the extra length. I have no fitment problems with the firewall (probably like 2-3 inches clearance.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 wrx DPs are too short. if you want to weld in the section of pipe needed for it to connect with the stock catback, then you can use one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolbluelb Posted August 21, 2006 Author Share Posted August 21, 2006 Thanks to all for the info. I do not have an extra DP lying around and probably will not go buy one just to see if it will fit. What bugs me is the lack of choice for catted aftermarket DP's for the Legacy. Cobb's piece is just so pricey compared to most everything out there that I just have trouble bringing myself to buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suds2250 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 You could go with a shorty style downpipe. It's still a stage two, and I think you would only be giving up 5-10 HP by keeping the stock midpipe. Even then, you could just gut the stock mid-pipe cat. 335HP/360Tq VF-22/1820 clone with Meth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallispec Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I really dont get the appeal of the catted downpipe -- catted or catless, they're both illegal for street use and will fail an emmisions test based on a visual inspection... If i really were worried about it, i would do what Suds suggested and get the crucial shorty downpipe - the best solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmorgan Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 if you get a high flow metal substrate cat, you get a little bit of backpressure to alleviate most boost surge and spikes, but still have better flow and can pass sniffer checks some of the time. But ya, still not kosher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedracerx Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I really dont get the appeal of the catted downpipe -- catted or catless, they're both illegal for street use and will fail an emmisions test based on a visual inspection... If i really were worried about it, i would do what Suds suggested and get the crucial shorty downpipe - the best solution. I have an HFC after the DP for two reasons: 1) Might pass visual on the street (at night in the rain?), and 2) may cut down on the yellow residue from running catless. My WRX rear lower valance and lower fenders were discolored from running catless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreoSTi Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I really dont get the appeal of the catted downpipe -- catted or catless, they're both illegal for street use and will fail an emmisions test based on a visual inspection... My rationale; 1. It makes more power than the stock downpipe. 2. It doesn't "stink" like a catless downpipe and still provides some beneficial reduction/conversion of pollutants that catalytic converters provide. 3. Emissions testing in CA is every 6 years for new vehicles. I don't normally keep a car more than 2-3 years. Yes, it's still illegal... But I also drive over the speed limit (on rare occasions). -Mike- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTguy Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 fyi I have an HKS downpipe on my 05 legacy gt and did not have any fitment issues... also I have a cut out right after it. I don't suggest it though... way too loud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmeat Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Yes, it's still illegal... But I also drive under the speed limit (on rare occasions). -Mike- fixed. I'm pleasantly surprised... It was most certainly worth the couple bucks and 10 mins of my time. CLICK HERE FOR THE HOGZAUST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landcrush Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I didn't really get a definitive answer out of theses responses, so to raise a thread from the dead- what needs to be done to make the older style downpipe work on the LGT? lengthening ? specifically looking at a turbo xs that I believe is off of the older style cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 wrx DPs are too short. if you want to weld in the section of pipe needed for it to connect with the stock catback, then you can use one. This is your answer. Although, really it's no big deal to add in some extra pipe to connect to the stock catback. If you find a great deal on one and are okay paying at most $100 to lengthen your stock catback it should be fine. The only issue will be come time to remove the downpipe, you will need to also cut the catback back down to fit. My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 There really isn't any need to do this. Downpipes for the '08~'13 WRX will fit your car and there's a metric shit-ton of those on the market, new and used. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landcrush Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 There really isn't any need to do this. Downpipes for the '08~'13 WRX will fit your car and there's a metric shit-ton of those on the market, new and used.[/QU Yea i realize that only reason i ask is because there was a deal on an 07 dp. Will probably end up going with the correct fitment in any case. However spending $50 and a little time welding is a lot more attractive than spending 400+ for a newer carted downpipe. Seems like most don't have a problem spending ridiculous amounts of money on these cars, and I have as well but i'd like to limit any further spending lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Like I said, there are a ton of options out there these days, new and used. If it's a really good deal and you can handle a little bit of fab work, go right ahead. No harm no foul. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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