Custom Trendz Inc. Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I was just browsing NASIOC and noticed somewhere it states that the reason people dont seafoam through the brake booster sometimes is because it runs to Cyl 4 so you mostly only clean that cylinder if you run it off the brake booster. So i am wondering, for SURE cleaning of my cylinder and valves wouldnt it be a smart idea to pour some seafoam through that line? Things I got/did after P0304: MSD Coil NGK Plugs New Wires New front o2 CAI UEL Headers Stromung mid pipe w/ cherry bomb Apexi WS2 catback Swapped Injectors Swapped Injector Plugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subikid90 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Using the PCV hose will clean your whole motor, I wouldnt just try to clean one cylinder. Does the motor appear to be misfiring? That weird that you replaced all of that with no results. -Subikid90 1997 Legacy GT 5spd & EJ251 w/EJ25D heads ~10.5CR 1998 Legacy GT Limited waiting for EJ22T hybrid swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Trendz Inc. Posted December 9, 2010 Author Share Posted December 9, 2010 i did 1/3 through pcv also by the way, and i also ran a whole tank with a whole bottle of seafoam (poured it in empty tank, then filled whole tank with some gas.) I also have deep creep(seafoam for intakes in aerosol form) and about 2/3 of a can of seafoam left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zues Marine Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 you swap plugs and filters before or after seasfoaming...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyGT08 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 After, they pick up all kinds of crap that the seafoam knocks loose. NEVER ARGUE WITH A STUPID PERSON. THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL, THEN BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zues Marine Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 ^ yea i know, i meant did he do it in that order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Motion Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 and do an oil change if u pour some into the crank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Trendz Inc. Posted December 9, 2010 Author Share Posted December 9, 2010 plugs were before seafoaming, but honestly car barely smoked when I seafoamed through the pcv valve. I also changed fuel filter before seafoaming. Plugs were changed BEFORE seafoaming also. I honestly did not think I would even have to seafoam it, until all of those parts being changed did nothing(upgraded as I troubleshooted of course.) Reason being i want to seafoam most of the 4th cylinder is because if its the valve the seafoam could brake it loose or clean of some gunk off it. About 2k miles ago I did headgaskets, in which i RESEATED all of the valves, resurfaced heads, and replaced every single valve stem seal and properly seated it. I highly doubt it could be the valves, but I dont even know anymore. Timing shouldnt be off, and if it is wouldnt it be setting off P0304 and P0302? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOHCEJ22E1 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Things I got/did after P0304: MSD Coil NGK Plugs New Wires New front o2 CAI UEL Headers Stromung mid pipe w/ cherry bomb Apexi WS2 catback Swapped Injectors Swapped Injector Plugs 1/3 SF in tank. 1/3 SF in crankcase. 1/3 SF in brake booster. Btw, when you added all of those small upgrades & Seafoamed the engine, did you reset the ECU? If not, now would be the ideal time to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Trendz Inc. Posted December 9, 2010 Author Share Posted December 9, 2010 yeah i reset the ecu after i did the last upgrade(exhaust) i did not reset ecu after seafoam because i dont think thats needed. I also do not want to run any seafoam through the crank so none of my seals decide to go. Im at 128k miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 If you have a MAF it shall be cleaned. Check the valve clearance too. If the clearance is too tight the valves may not close completely and cause misfire and possibly also valve damage. A compression test may reveal valve damage but not too tight valve clearance. Of course - if you have an engine with hydraulic lifters (I can't remember which engines that has and has not as usual) then the valve clearance shouldn't be an issue unless you have a completely frozen lifter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Trendz Inc. Posted December 9, 2010 Author Share Posted December 9, 2010 i cleaned maf as one of the first precautions(see i did so much i forgot what i did!) Compression test will be done TONIGHT after i get jdm fogs+more seafoaming done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Trendz Inc. Posted December 9, 2010 Author Share Posted December 9, 2010 compression check showed 168 on all cylinders, and the battery/alternator are running good. Honestly, what the hell could this be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz98gt Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 this is unbelieveable...there's a ghost! Sorry man, I'm not sure where else to turn for this one. I can't remember if you tried clearing the code with a scantool or not...it sounds like everything's running fine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Now I'm not sure but do you have a central coil pack or individual coils for each cylinder? If there is a central coil pack you may replace the ignition cables. One of them may have been damaged and the spark is jumping somewhere to ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOHCEJ22E1 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 i did not reset ecu after seafoam because i dont think thats needed. Your ECU may have adjusted to the pre-ignition that was probably happening when the built up carbon was still there. I just may be paranoid but I've always reset the ecu after I've cleaned or replaced a mass of parts just to see how the car responds. Side Note: Check the wiring around Cyl#4 & see if there are no open areas that can cause a code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04NP Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I've got an 04 N/A Legacy. Was planning to change my oil this weekend, wanted to SeaFoam as well. Last time a friend helped me suck about 1/3 of the can through the brake booster (circular protrusion from the firewall, drivers side). I've got a VERY rough idle, the car shakes a lot. Could be revving a bit smoother as well. Where should I actually suck it in? Could someone provide a picture (><). Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOHCEJ22E1 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I've got an 04 N/A Legacy. Was planning to change my oil this weekend, wanted to SeaFoam as well. Last time a friend helped me suck about 1/3 of the can through the brake booster (circular protrusion from the firewall, drivers side). I've got a VERY rough idle, the car shakes a lot. Could be revving a bit smoother as well. Where should I actually suck it in? Could someone provide a picture (><). Thanks! 1/3 in brake booster line. 1/3 in crankcase. 1/3 in gas tank. When you see thick smoke coming out of the tailpipe & the engine starts the sputter/slow down, rev the s**t out of it. I'm talking like near-red line status. Your engine needs to be spinning at high rpms for the Seafoam to do it's job properly. Rev it high for about 10-15 seconds, & then back off & let it idle for 30 seconds, then repeat until the thick white smoke disappears (there WILL be a LOT of smoke so make sure you're away from people or they'll get panicked & call the cops). Then change your oil again & fill your gas tank up to clear the lines/engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04NP Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Sorry I'm a little car-dumb. Brake booster is the line that's on the firewall essentially in front of the driver and crankcase is the oil? or is that the PCV hose others are mentioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOHCEJ22E1 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Sorry I'm a little car-dumb. Brake booster is the line that's on the firewall essentially in front of the driver and crankcase is the oil? or is that the PCV hose others are mentioning PCV hose. You can also put it in the oil as well but I always use the PCV hose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Trendz Inc. Posted December 9, 2010 Author Share Posted December 9, 2010 ive tried to swap wires, and i have a single coil pack(which the MSD replaced the old one.) Car doesn't run all that great honestly, idle is shaky and it feels like its misfiring. Usually worse when reallllllly cold out(so everyday haha.) Mechanic i talk with all the time(subaru guy) hes been a mechanic for years, my neighbor used to go to him in the 70's! Anyway he said that i should just drive it until it dissapears, but that isnt really logical for me. Should i swap the ecu? What ecu's would work for me? gonna do oil change, fix ALL of the exhaust leaks because the exhaust mani was slightly leaking during seafoam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOHCEJ22E1 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Car doesn't run all that great honestly, idle is shaky and it feels like its misfiring. Should i swap the ecu? What ecu's would work for me? Did you rev it to high rpms when the Seafoam was fully poured in? If your exhaust is still smoking white, then there is still Seafoam left. Outback ECUs will work for you. Direct plug-ins from 96-99. Don't use L ECUs (Ls). They're for EJ22s & may make your EJ25 run lean. They'll also lower your max rpm limit by a few hundred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Trendz Inc. Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 yeah im sure there is no seafoam left. It still misfires after oil change and resealing of exhaust. Not as bad, but its still there. I am at a loss of what to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Trendz Inc. Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 by the way, is there any possible way to data-log a 2nd gen? I read somewhere that no information shows up on the data-log or something. Can someone please show me in the right direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zues Marine Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 piggyback ecu - $400+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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