channoff Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Yes, I know there are dozens of threads here about tranny fluids, however, the more I read, the more confusing it became. I have to replace my center diff bearings this weekend and, along with that, my tranny fluid. I have 73k miles and a MFactory Torsen LSD. My plan is to just go with Extra-S. Good idea? Bad idea? Other options? Any help would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grovlet Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I used Amsoil Products in my cars: Severe Gear Automatic Transmission Fluid And they recommend Severe Gear for Manual Tramsmissions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 You'll also read where I'm refilling my 5mt in my wagon with Amsoil Severgear and I have that in my 09 Spec B also 6mt and the rear diff. I did just put one of the 5 qt's of Motul 300 in the rear diff of the wagon. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Please don't do the stupid cocktail mix. Extra-S is a clear first choice. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lingling1337 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 How much do you really stand to gain from trying a cocktail? Plenty of people say the Subaru stuff works, that's what I'd use. How many times has BAC5.2 changed his tranny fluid that he can clearly recommend the "cocktail" over one or two other brands of gear oil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 If you have issues with your tranny then the cocktail can help. Having done the Extra-S and Amsoil Severgear. I think the Amsoil shifts as good if not better. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channoff Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 Thanks for all the replies. Based on everything I am hearing and the fact that I have zero issues with my tranny as far as shifting, grinding, etc, I am most likely going to stick with Extra-S. Really, my question was more around whether or not I should consider something different due to my LSD. I was just wondering if someone would come on here and say something like "You idiot, you can't use Extra-S with your LSD. You loser!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 What did the guy's at MFactory recommend that you use ? It's been a few years but I can't remember the name's of the guy's there from our Honda day's. I know my son was talking with them 4/5 years back. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channoff Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 What did the guy's at MFactory recommend that you use ? It's been a few years but I can't remember the name's of the guy's there from our Honda day's. I know my son was talking with them 4/5 years back. It's been a few years but I can't remember the name's of the guy's there from our Honda day's. I know my son was talking with them 4/5 years back. Directly from their website FAQs: "We highly recommend the use of our Torco Transmission Fluid when our gears are installed with a stock differential or our Limited Slip Differentials. While it is not a necessity, we observe a transmission fluid change every 2-3 Engine Oil changes. However, this is dependent on your actual mileage and frequency of usage in competition environments" and "IMPORTANT NOTICE: DO NOT use Gear Oil in your Honda Transmission. Doing so will cause more damage than good, especially the expensive Synthetic/Performance Gear Oils. Please click here for further information. " Looks like the gear oil cocktail is out. Anyone here have any experience with Torco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 How much do you really stand to gain from trying a cocktail? Plenty of people say the Subaru stuff works, that's what I'd use. How many times has BAC5.2 changed his tranny fluid that he can clearly recommend the "cocktail" over one or two other brands of gear oil? I've had my hands on the guts of literally thousands of Subaru gearboxes. I'll have to see if I can dig up the picture of the 55 gallon drum full of broken gears we'd fill monthly. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 As for what fluid to use, I'll continue recommending the cocktail I've been recommending for almost a decade. With a helical front diff, I'd typically run 50/50 Shockproof to Motul. There's nothing wrong with running Extra-S, if you'd prefer to use a single fluid. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06legsleeper Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 i just got 4 qt,s of syn power valvoline i heard good stuff from others that rebuild trans, and diffs and thats all they use so , ive been a die hard redline user , just figured id give this a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lingling1337 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I've had my hands on the guts of literally thousands of Subaru gearboxes. I'll have to see if I can dig up the picture of the 55 gallon drum full of broken gears we'd fill monthly. In that case I defer to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bochim Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 How's the Redline stuff? Good? Bad? Im asking because i put it in mine about 1800K ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexi Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Which red line fluid are you referring to? I put 75w-90NS in my transmission a few weeks ago. For the first two days things felt a little funky, but ever since then its been shifting great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul_Good Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I've always used and had great results w/Motul Gear300. I had there when you got the car. I also have it in my Miata too. Loves it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Extra-S. For 5MT's already eating gears/synchros we tend to use a "cocktail" of 3qts Motul Gear 300 and 1qt Redline Lightweight Shock Proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 This, http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x40/92Si/th_DSCN5242_zps79584338.jpg To protect this. http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x40/92Si/th_DSCN5296_zps1a5dd163.jpg 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmat Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Where is the best place to get the Extra-S? The ole dealership? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexi Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 The dealership can only get you 5 gallon drums. The following vendors sell 1qt bottles. There may be more vendors that sell it by the quart, but these are the first guys that come to mind. Fred beans subaru out of PA http://www.fredbeansparts.com/subaru-75w90-extra-s-gear-and-transmission-quart-bottle.html Infamous Performance out of CA http://www.infamousperformance.net/servlet/the-612/Subaru-75W90-Extra-dsh-S-Gear/Detail AZP out of NJ doesn't sell it by the quart, but they do sell it by the gallon. http://azpinstalls.com/web/index.php/products/maintenance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmat Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Sweet! Thanks. I was having trouble finding folks to split the 5G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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