Tr00b Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 K let's start out by saying this car has been the same.on everything else parts wise until this point. Car had bad hesitation problem shortly after I bought it 2012 Compression test came in low for one cyl but not out of spec. Same cyl ended up having bad spark plug wire more than a year later and around $500 in parts, dealer diagnostics and several threads on here. Car ran good for a couple weeks then at completely random had no compression in all cyls. Checked timing, was OK. Put back together. No compression. Tore back apart checked timing again. Still good. Put oil in cylinders, car finally has enough compression and fires up, still has low compression on one side smokes white immediately overheats. Get pissed off let the car sit a couple months . Pulled the heads. Car was out of time??? Cyl with misfire and lowest compression was full of wet loose gloppy carbon. Took heads to machine shop to be planed. First they found not sealing valves on the cyl with the low compression, they were all carboned open. So I needed plane and valve lapping $350 and dealership gsskets and other crap $300. A: The dealer had never had to order the head gasket for this type of car, ever. B: Machine shop had never seen heads like this. Also, the valve seals the dealership gave me for machine shop to install (because they had a large drawer of spares and wanted to get rid of them) did not fit. Course this was 4:30 on a Friday so we couldn't get the right ones bit neither dealership or machine shop had seen this phenomena or knew if the right ones existed. The have done 3-400 Subaru heads. I can get part numbers for the head gaskets and etc... but what the hell is this thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisty Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 no pics? how can we see how different they are without them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr00b Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 Heads are at the machine shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunny5280 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I'm not quite sure I understand the issue. Are you saying the heads / valves / gaskets are not the correct one's for your make / model / year car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr00b Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Because the dealer said he'd never had to order this particular gasket, machine shop said they never have seen a head like this, and the dealer parts didnt fit, I'm wondering what the heck I'm dealing with and why everything's so funky. No problems really yet except I'm going insane waiting for the machine shop, who says that they can ordered their own seals now. Cross referencing parts valve seals on rock auto are the same 1996-2006 for 2.2 and 2.5 engines. Subarupartsforyou indicates 2000-2001 had a unique exhaust and intake seal. Might take the 2000 seals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailman Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 tag for pics when they come back from the shop Might take the 2000 seals? would be my guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scontivt Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 If it's a 2.2L, you have a complete Phase 2 2.2L engine, unless your car orignally had a 2.5, then it's a Phase 2 2.5L Block with Phase 1 DOHC heads. 1999 model year was a transition year for legacy. Good news is, if your Legacy is truely an L with a 2.2L, you can throw in a Phase 2 2.5L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr00b Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Its a 30th anniversary. Has an L badge on the back. Anyone want the Vin? Got the heads from machine shop Friday. Cost $440 for valve job and planing. He was such a dick that all he would say is the dealer sent the wrong parts wouldnt say much else. Haven't had time to unwrap them will post pics asap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 all he would say is the dealer sent the wrong parts wouldnt say much else. usually this is a lie, blame the other guy, it was their fault. besides, he was a dick. but it could be true. but if it were i would think there would be a few more details. but regardless, you have your heads back and ready to go in. good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 2, 2014 I Donated Share Posted October 2, 2014 Years when they started changing things were weird for Subaru. I had a 1996 Outback that had a factory 2.2 in it with dual port exhaust. The info plate on the driver strut tower even said EJ22. To throw another curveball, it was a California emissions car.....so when I got it stuck in a river and destroyed the ECU by submerging it in water it was interesting to find a replacement for it LOL -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr00b Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 Johnegg... yep he was a dick allright. According to a friend he said that the machine work looked good. We will have to see how it runs. Broke that's nuts. I remember looking for Cali spec ecus once for the giggles of it and there were not many. I have about 4 more hours to go, fluids, hook up hill holder, install timing cover, alternator and odds and ends. When the heads were off because of all the prior bs...I had 22 hours in it. Now I have 34 hours. What a pain. Outside, in the yard where I parked it after overheating it after getting it to run after randomly having no compression... sat there so long the bugs ate all the dead grass and now there is just dirt. Some pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr00b Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 WTF. Car still overheats I'm going to be sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 lets start with the basics. how much coolant did did you add to the syste? did you burp the system? is it a ''subaru'' t-stat? has ''stop leak'' ever been added the system? does the radiator flow freely out the bottom when you put a hose in the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr00b Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 Image uploader on this site is worthless! http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/GhettoGothCowboy/IMG_20140913_142734_657_zpsad55cbbb.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/GhettoGothCowboy/IMG_20140913_185944_498_zps9c0432cf.jpghttp://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/GhettoGothCowboy/IMG_20140917_183841_456_zpse6e2724e.jpgdirty http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/GhettoGothCowboy/IMG_20140917_182315_387_zpsdee0a86c.jpgclean and sanded Teardown pix .. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/GhettoGothCowboy/IMG_20140506_182819_645_zpsa620092b.jpg Running the car for 50k on this little guy caused the issue I think... Best explanation I have for what popped the gasket. Uneven cyl pressures and heat. Then when I fixed it it let go. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/GhettoGothCowboy/IMG_20140930_182816_891_zps79948417.jpghttp://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/GhettoGothCowboy/IMG_20140930_182826_482_zps45f835cf.jpghttp://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/GhettoGothCowboy/IMG_20140930_182905_507_zpse3fecc88.jpghttp://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/GhettoGothCowboy/IMG_20140930_182923_839_zpsf20efd82.jpghttp://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/GhettoGothCowboy/IMG_20140930_183512_879_zpsbbf9aa65.jpg The heads for everyone's reference... Post machine shop shine. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/GhettoGothCowboy/IMG_20140930_183819_734_zps58afdd6b.jpg My 300 in Subaru dealer parts. Yes I did this in the yard. One day was 89 degrees and a couple weeks later it was 32 degrees when I was working on it to reassemble. When I was pissing with it in June it was miserable hot. I spent: 300 for Subaru Parts hg, intake, exh, antifreeze stop leak, thermostat, a crossover pipe, timing belt, misc 440 for machine work 100 for a battery 100 for fluids and supplies like sand paper, brake clean, degreaser. Before that during pre diagnosis teardowns I spent 20 for a new oil pressure sensor 20 for a timing belt guide 20 for degreaser and misc to clean ops leakage 22 hours in pre diagnosis wtf compression testing tear downs etc since May 21 hours in tear down, reassembly and bleeding the damn cooling system which took 4 hours. I replaced a Stant thermostat, which would bleed in about 30 mins, with a Subaru one. I ended up running it, filling the radiator and the overflow, and letting the cool down vacuum draw it into the block, then repeat. After the third cycle it began to bleed normally. What a pain! That's pretty much it. **** this car. It runs now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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