wera832 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Ive seen that alot of folks dont like them , but Im left wondering why ? Do they not make any power ? Or just hard to tune for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCASEYS Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 the 2nd part SRI are for sound ricer! I donated to LegacyGT.com which allows me to have this nifty signature. If anything SCASEYS posts ever becomes a sticky i'm gonna light this whole place on fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripemeat Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 the maf is placed in the S curve of the tube, generally mafs are supposed to be mounted in straight tubes so air is less turbulent flowing by the sensor. with the SPT, there can be dips and spikes in the afr at random due to turbulence created by the tube bends before and after the sensor. the inconsistency of air flow past the sensor can cause it to register higher or lower g/s measurements in split seconds, momentarily causing the ecu to account the appropriate amount of fuel for that reading(which is usually a rich dip or lean spike and you'll feel it while driving... hesitation). from what i noticed, it's almost equivalent to having a dirty maf sensor. the more you f'in know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 ^this. Cliff note: dont get the spt intake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin case Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 There was one on my car when I bought it,I promptly upgraded to stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wera832 Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 There was one on the kids car , looks like the stock air box was destroyed in an accident as its all broken up and just un-useable. Guess I know what to get him for Xmas - thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustangendsley Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 This is a hard debate. I know so many rally suby cars that run the SPT intake and love them. Most people hate them on this site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlack-V Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 i have a cobb SF intake and other than it sounding annoying its tuned for the car. Provious owner put it on so i kept it. IF you are going to get an intake the two to get are the Cobb SF or the KS-Tech and have the car tuned for them please. I was 0. And I'm still a zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 It is the LGT specific model that is the worst. MAF too close to a bend. Inconsistent air flow readings from the MAF. Air too turbulent. Piping is cast and heats up quick, then holds the heat. Bad. Requires tuning (like many intakes) but once again, can not tune cleanly as MAF readings fluctuate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowwill Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Never had issues with mine besides the annoying noise. This site seems to really hate them. My Subie tech laughs and say that some people spend to much time online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Never had issues because you have never logged it or pulled a LV with it installed. If your "Subie tech" would like to have an in depth conversation that includes data and repeatable experiments proving the inadequacies and possible damage caused by a SPT intake, give him my number. Some food for thought: http://www.cobbtuning.com/Technical-Articles-s/70677.htm Cobb used to have a tech article posted on their site that specifically explained the deficiencies of the SPT intake (for the LGT) as well. It was pulled about 2 years ago (or so). It was written by Trey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famaya26 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Mike, How much better is the Cobb CF Intake. I would really like one just to clean up my engine bay a little. Would it just be best to stick with my stock intake? - Fidel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlack-V Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Mike, How much better is the Cobb CF Intake. I would really like one just to clean up my engine bay a little. Would it just be best to stick with my stock intake? - Fidel I have been told intakes only help minimally at higher hp #'s. if you are stage 2 of lower best bet would be to keep the stock intake. I have a Cobb sf because it came on my car from the previous owner (who was a very well known tuner). I was 0. And I'm still a zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 At below 300whp the stock intake works very well. The Cobb intake has the same internal diameter as the OEM (so it technically needs no scaling). This is why Cobb allows it with their OTS maps. While it might not add any power (to a stage2 car), it adds some bling and noise and is a fine, stable intake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrw Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 The Cobb intake definitely needs to be scaled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlack-V Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 ^ I am sorry I beg to differ, Cobb states you do not need to change the MAF scaling is false. My car was protuned stage 2 without the MAF scaling changed and it made the car stumble and almost stall. I thought for the longest time my issue was my O-rings on the intake manifold however after being retuned the new tuner (different tuner) did adjust the MAF scaling and after that the car ran like a dream. I was 0. And I'm still a zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzerklo Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yeah... doesn't Cobb offer MAF scaling for their intake for their OTS AccessPort Tunes now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Cobb still offers OTS maps for OEM intake and their intake. I would not run any intake other than stock without re-scaling. I would verify my AFR's and LV with even a drop in filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baci Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 So If I wanted a lil diff sound than stock and or if I ever went to something above stage 2 cobb seems to be the way to go? Groovey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDoug60 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I've been told by 2 tuners that it restricts air.... So I bought a cobb. But I would really like to know why it is so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlack-V Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I've been told by 2 tuners that it restricts air.... So I bought a cobb. But I would really like to know why it is so bad. As stated the Cobb has the same diameter and air flow as the stock air box. Please have it tuned though and ask then to change the Maf settings. I was 0. And I'm still a zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaSprinter24 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Anyone know if the AEM Cain is any good or should I not waste my money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlack-V Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Anyone know if the AEM Cain is any good or should I not waste my money If you REALLY want an intake get a Cobb sf or KS tech, no other intake really works well on the LGT from what I have read/heard. There are minimal gains for our cars with an intake which is why most don't spend the $ I was 0. And I'm still a zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripemeat Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 the aem is a decent intake. ks tech and cobb are real nice. of course getting one will require a tune as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 There are plenty of good working intakes. Cobb, KSTech, AEM, K&N Typhoon, AVO, just to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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