mr_abc Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 I need to know whether to go about this deal or not. I live in New Jersey and I was quoted $29512 OTD (includes TTL) for an 06 LGT 5 speed manual Sedan with an MSRP of $29440. FYI the OTD price does include the $1000 cash rebate. Your responses will be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfcorrea Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Seems like you are getting stiffed. What dealer did you go to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bashopoem Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 that seems high. if you go to town motors in englewood, nj you could probably knock a grand off that price. talk to derrick, he's a great salesman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcole05 Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Carsdirect.com price is 26,700 on the base manual GT Ltd (MSRP 29400). Depends on sales tax in NJ, but assuming 300 in fees plus 7% tax (here in GA) you'd get 28900. I'd go for about 26,700-27000 OTD, not including sales tax, and feel pretty good about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_abc Posted January 22, 2006 Author Share Posted January 22, 2006 Seems like you are getting stiffed. What dealer did you go to? Salerno Duane Subaru Jersey City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_abc Posted January 22, 2006 Author Share Posted January 22, 2006 that seems high. if you go to town motors in englewood, nj you could probably knock a grand off that price. talk to derrick, he's a great salesman. I'll definitely check out Town Motors. Do you happen to know what days Derrick is in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_abc Posted January 22, 2006 Author Share Posted January 22, 2006 Carsdirect.com price is 26,700 on the base manual GT Ltd (MSRP 29400). Depends on sales tax in NJ, but assuming 300 in fees plus 7% tax (here in GA) you'd get 28900. I'd go for about 26,700-27000 OTD, not including sales tax, and feel pretty good about it. Did you mean 26,700- 27000 with or without the $1000 cash rebate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_abc Posted January 22, 2006 Author Share Posted January 22, 2006 is it a base GT and not limited, nor automatic? If so, it does seem a bit high. People in other parts of the country may not realize how much tax we actually pay over here. So before taxes, you are looking at around 27K or so, right? That being said, I got mine a Towm Motors and they gave me a great price. It's a 2.5 GT Limited Sedan 5 speed manual, I thought for 06 thats the only way they came, but I'm going by the website as well and it's a 2.5 GT Limited. As far as before taxes go, it was 28250 to begin with and the $1000 cash rebate was deducted after tax was put into the total. If you don't mind me asking, how much were you able to get yours for and who was the salesman you dealt with?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red beast Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 if you really want to save money liberty subaru, in oradell, may still have a 2005 lgt with the manual, cloth, black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miken Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 The Consumer Reports Car buying website gives a dealer bottom line price of 25268 on the Legacy GT Limited with manual. That's invoice less the $1000 rebate and an $864 dealer holdback. Check on Edmunds.com for a better idea of what the price should be, configured as you want it. THe price they quoted you sounds high (on my car, which has Navigation and automatic, I was at around 29000 before tax & tags the Washington Metro Area). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 I need to know whether to go about this deal or not. I live in New Jersey and I was quoted $29512 OTD (includes TTL) for an 06 LGT 5 speed manual Sedan with an MSRP of $29440. FYI the OTD price does include the $1000 cash rebate. Your responses will be greatly appreciated. Becker Subaru Allentown, PA $27,200 06 GT black/black auto no spoiler small extras like extended armrest, mud flaps, lock wheels, chrome rocker trim etc. Sales team was Ken Irvine(sp?) and Bob Pavone Thanks to this site I found them when doing general research on the car and where to buy them. Was $800.00 cheaper than next quote. Very impressed with car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappy Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Looks like Boss scored.^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcole05 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Based upon carsdirect, which I have always heard quotes a very competitive price (but one you can beat by a few hundred bucks with tough negotiating), the price is 26,700 including rebate. So to me, if you can get 26,500 plus 200 in garbage fees for 26,700 total, that would be a deal I'd personally be happy with. Sales tax, of course, would be on top of that but it's hard to quote since it varies from state to state. For comparison, I got a brand new '05 Ltd with under 50 miles on it about a week ago for 23,500 plus 200 in garbage fees = 23,700 OTD. When I register it here is GA, I'll have to pay sales tax. There are a few more '05s available...you may want to consider that option. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptaebphd Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I need to know whether to go about this deal or not. I live in New Jersey and I was quoted $29512 OTD (includes TTL) for an 06 LGT 5 speed manual Sedan with an MSRP of $29440. FYI the OTD price does include the $1000 cash rebate. Your responses will be greatly appreciated. Doesn't seem like a write-home-to-mom deal to me. Last night I bought a leftover black 2005 GT Limited 5MT for $22,200 with an OTD price of $24,030 (includes TTL). The guys down here (Fort Walton Beach FL) have another identical car on the lot (with a couple hundred miles on it) if you want it. After the plane ticket, you'd save about $5K. Something to think about.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bashopoem Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I'll definitely check out Town Motors. Do you happen to know what days Derrick is in? i dont, sorry. you can reach him at 201-568-5200, ext. 6017. i bought my legacy from him and had a great experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Keep shopping.....The best price I was able to get was not even in my state! It was halfway across the U.S. ....if the best price is what you are looking for keep all options open. I saved about 2300 over the BEST price I could get in my own state & that includes the 450 shipping fee:) I paid additional to have it shipped in a closed carrier. Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcole05 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Nice price cptaemphd. Funny, I was asking, begging, pleading those guys down in Fort Walton to sell me one of their leftover '05 GT ltds. Must've sent 10 emails over 2 weeks - all I wanted was a firm price and I would have been on an airplane the next day. They had an advertised price of 22,488 and I was willing to pay MORE if need be. But all I got was "fly on down" and "we'll can PROBABLY get you the advertised price." Felt like a setup to me to come down with no transportation and no way home without a price in hand. The dealership I ended up buying my (1 week old) '05 GT ltd, Beyer Subaru in VA, was all class. They gave me a firm price OTD and that was that. When I arrived, the car was perfect and as advertised (<50 miles on it). Based on my experience, I would NOT recommend those guys in FL. But like I said, you got a great price there, so you never know. Funny they sold a car for 22,200 that they could have gotten 23,000+ for, but, hey, I can't control how they do their business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptaebphd Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Nice price cptaemphd. Funny, I was asking, begging, pleading those guys down in Fort Walton to sell me one of their leftover '05 GT ltds. Must've sent 10 emails over 2 weeks - all I wanted was a firm price and I would have been on an airplane the next day. They had an advertised price of 22,488 and I was willing to pay MORE if need be. But all I got was "fly on down" and "we'll can PROBABLY get you the advertised price." Felt like a setup to me to come down with no transportation and no way home without a price in hand. The dealership I ended up buying my (1 week old) '05 GT ltd, Beyer Subaru in VA, was all class. They gave me a firm price OTD and that was that. When I arrived, the car was perfect and as advertised (<50 miles on it). Based on my experience, I would NOT recommend those guys in FL. But like I said, you got a great price there, so you never know. Funny they sold a car for 22,200 that they could have gotten 23,000+ for, but, hey, I can't control how they do their business. Sorry to hear that it didn't go so well for you with the guys here in FL, but I'm glad you got a deal you're happy with. I think a big deciding factor in my case was that I'm 5 miles away and could spend time with them. I test drove both cars they had and did some phone tag over a matter of a week to discuss details (I was thinking about having tint and other toys done prior to the purchase, but in the end didn't). The fact that I paid cash might have had an effect. And the fact that I wasn't in a hurry to buy. Turns out this was the most painless new vehicle purchase I've made in terms of negotiating the final price -- I gave them an OTD price, they countered, I wrote a check. My experience was the opposite of yours: I tried the internet route for a few cars and found what I thought were crummy deals (price is the most important factor to me). I didn't expect that. Turns our my best deal was made the old fashioned way. But who cares about the deals now -- we have FANTASTIC cars!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz-0 Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Salerno Duane I see your problem right there. A bunch of honest upstanding folks for sure. Salt of the earth... if you're a slug. Maybe their subaru showroom is better, but I wouldn't count on it. Unfortunately NJ is one of those states where you calculate tax before rebates, which is lame. You might want to hop on over the border. I also suggest making contact before hand with the internet rep of any dealer you deal with. I've just found them to be less hassle, especially in a high pressure dealership. But frankly if they can't even match the carsdirect price, give them a try. It is early in the year, so that might explain why it's not so hot a deal. $28000 out the door would be a pretty solid deal in NJ. That's invoice - incentive - about 45% of dealer holdback. I suspect from your price they are claiming tax due is based on MSRP or something stupid like that. It's based on negotiated price before incentives. If you hop across the border, might be able to do 27750 out the door. Technically you could do better by about another $400, but not until someone's chasing a sales number for some sort of dealer perk or sales prize, which is uncommon this early in the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcole05 Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Sorry to hear that it didn't go so well for you with the guys here in FL, but I'm glad you got a deal you're happy with. I think a big deciding factor in my case was that I'm 5 miles away and could spend time with them. I test drove both cars they had and did some phone tag over a matter of a week to discuss details (I was thinking about having tint and other toys done prior to the purchase, but in the end didn't). The fact that I paid cash might have had an effect. And the fact that I wasn't in a hurry to buy. Turns out this was the most painless new vehicle purchase I've made in terms of negotiating the final price -- I gave them an OTD price, they countered, I wrote a check. My experience was the opposite of yours: I tried the internet route for a few cars and found what I thought were crummy deals (price is the most important factor to me). I didn't expect that. Turns our my best deal was made the old fashioned way. But who cares about the deals now -- we have FANTASTIC cars!!! Yeah, you got that right. Shouldn't let my frustration show. It is strange, though, because I too was paying cash and, like I said, spent about two weeks trying to get somewhere with them and couldn't even get a price, even a too-high price. Maybe they do just like doing business the old fashioned way...in person. For me, the only local option was white, and I just couldn't do that. So to the internet route it was. Anyway, water under the bridge. I'll take 6K under MSRP for a car decked out just like I wanted, in the color I wanted, with 45 miles on it. But 7K under?? I need to go to the cptaemphd school of negotiating! Enjoy the car. Any thoughts of mods, or are you planning to stay stock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptaebphd Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Yeah, you got that right. Shouldn't let my frustration show. It is strange, though, because I too was paying cash and, like I said, spent about two weeks trying to get somewhere with them and couldn't even get a price, even a too-high price. Maybe they do just like doing business the old fashioned way...in person. For me, the only local option was white, and I just couldn't do that. So to the internet route it was. Anyway, water under the bridge. I'll take 6K under MSRP for a car decked out just like I wanted, in the color I wanted, with 45 miles on it. But 7K under?? I need to go to the cptaemphd school of negotiating! Enjoy the car. Any thoughts of mods, or are you planning to stay stock? I'm going to add a few mods: subwoofer, tint, armrest extension, mudflaps, and a short shifter/bushings. Oh, and also the aux input mod. I'll wait a while before adding performance bits -- I'm quite content with the stock power rush. This really is an incredible car, the more I drive it the more I like it! And the black is really elegant (when it's clean ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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