Subaru specific OEM Nav system replacement

Wondering if anyone else has seen this on have any more info.

Stumbled on it via internet search...

Basically looks like it is a CarPC that has the capability to use the OEM screen and installed with little to no modification.

Running Windows CE opens to a world of possibilities!!

http://interfejsy-diagnostyczne.s-tech.pl/img/navibox_front_d.jpg

there's a video on the site which is in Polish...

Link!

About $500 without shipping

Seller!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR3hTPtDjgk&feature=player_embedded]S-TECH Navibox - zamiast fabrycznej nawigacji - Subaru i inne - YouTube[/ame]

Very interesting! Except I'm a little concerned about people who would try to run office apps while they're driving

First portion of product page, translated:

SUBARU ST-NAVIBOX GPS navigation module for Subaru

 

Description

 

SUBARU ST-NAVIBOX is a versatile navigation device, designed to replace the original navigation in Subaru cars. The device supports a touch screen and retains all the functions of the on-board computer.

The set is supplied with a cable to connect to the built-in monitor without any modifications to the vehicle electrical system.

 

Operating system Windows CE 5.0, you install on the device, depending on the user's preferences are many different programs available in the market for navigation. With such a versatile device operating system can also be used as a multimedia entertainment center - you can watch movies, pictures, listen to music and as a mobile office - you can install any desktop applications, open documents like on a mobile device Pocket PC.

 

The device has two inputs for connecting a reversing camera and DVD player for example.

 

Properties:

 

• GPS - you can install one or more of any programs for navigation (eg, Automap, CT Garmin, Navigon, TomTom Navigator, MapaMap, Destinator and all other navigation software running on Windows CE 5.0)
  
• Ability to update maps by the user - user installs their own maps on SD card
  
• Multimedia Center in the car - movies, programs, files, games, photos, music, audio books, MP3
  
• External GPS antenna - a greater range than standard equipment with
  
• USB port can connect to a USB stick with film, music, photos or documents
  
• Supports rear view camera - 2 inputs, the second can connect an additional camera or DVD player
  
• Device built into the car - not visible from the outside (minimal risk of theft)
  
• The unit is ready for connection to the Subaru factory touch screen without any modifications to the electrical system in your car.
  

They list compatible cars as Impreza, Outback. Legacy. and Tribeca. Some Foresters outside North America have the same OEM Kenwood nav system, so it will probably work with those too.

Bumping this up due to more info on this system.

This actually is the CS9100 from Technopark Company LTD

Check out their specialised site : car-solutions.com

Bought the CS9200RV this weekend at some carshop which had it for some project that didn't go thru. Just missing the KEN-RGB1 cable now.

CS9200 user manual

http://car-solutions.com/nfs/product/834741/image/300/CS9200RV-Car-Navigation-Box-for-Multimedia-Receivers.jpg

Just lost the DVD unit of the OEM piece today. 2008 Spec B. I suppose this would be a replacement? What about the kenwood G510? Thoughts?

This was the unit I mentioned on the other thread. I have also considered replacing the screen with a tablet, but then you'd lose the MPG, service and setting screens that are on it.

You mean something like this?

http://www.strizzyphoto.com/photos/i-6VQtC4k/0/XL/i-6VQtC4k-XL.jpg

http://www.strizzyphoto.com/photos/i-wLrjhMs/0/XL/i-wLrjhMs-XL.jpg

You mean something like this?

 

http://www.strizzyphoto.com/photos/i-6VQtC4k/0/XL/i-6VQtC4k-XL.jpg

 

http://www.strizzyphoto.com/photos/i-wLrjhMs/0/XL/i-wLrjhMs-XL.jpg

Yup!! Is that the Nexus 7 project? You lose the oem screen functions like the control for the alarm/light/beep, clock adjustment (this is the only one I use) so that's the only thing preventing me from going this route.

I also have an old Parrot bluetooth kit driving my speakers and would like to have a head unit that has the Bluetooth built in.

A tablet would be a much cheaper solution though.

Maybe there's a better bluetooth kit out there.

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I'm finishing my install tonight, so I'll take some pics of how I have it installed.

Awesome!! Looks great so far

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I ended up getting this [ame=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GX05NDU/ref=oh_details_o00_s01_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1]Amazon.com: NeuTab N7 7'' Dual Core Google Android 4.1 Jelly Bean Tablet PC, 1024X600 HD, Dual Camera, Google Play Pre-loaded, 3D-Game Supported: Computers & Accessories[/ame]

I didn't want to get something decent, only to hack it up and not work.

This actually ended up working out perfect. The screen is the EXACT same size as the bezel opening, and the case to the tablet opens up very easily.

I was initially planning on mounting the unmodified tablet in the opening, but a tab at the top of the bezel got in the way by about 1/8". So I decided to crack open the case and see if there was enough space to notch out the tablet case. After I opened it up, I realized this was going to be a LOT easier than I had planned.

Since the audio port comes out the side, there isn't enough room for a 1/8" connector, so I soldered my wire directly to the PCB, then put a 1/8" connector on the other end. The tablet is charged by a separate non-USB charging cable. I took an old USB cable I had, cut the end off, and cut the tip off the charging cable, then soldered the positive/negative of the tip to the positive/negative of the USB. Now it's powered with this: [ame=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FYNSCGW/ref=oh_details_o00_s01_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1]Amazon.com: Certified by Apple - Lifetime Warranty - Dual USB Ports 3.1A Portable USB Car Charger for iPhone 5 5S 5C 4 4S,iPad 4 3 2,iPad mini,iPad air (Lightning Cable/Adapter Not Included) Battery Power Supply for All Apple Device - Premium MFI Quality (Black+Red): Car Electronics[/ame]

For the wiring, I have a box of Cat5 with stranded wire. Two wires are used for the power, which I soldered directly to the board, and three wires are used for the audio. My initial audio test produced horrible feedback when the device was plugged in to the power socket; unplugged it was fine. So I went back and looked everything over and noticed that when a 3.5mm jack is plugged in, it grounds itself with the rest of the device and the power. I made a jumper to complete make the ground and all was close to perfect. I had a ground loop isolator sitting on my bench, so I tossed that in, and now it's good.

My next issue was turning the screen on after it has been off for a while. I have the device set up to always have the screen on when plugged it and turn off after 15 seconds when it's not. The screen will turn back on when it senses power, but only up to about 5 minutes of being off. Otherwise the device is in some sort of sleep mode and needs the manual switch to turn the screen back on. I soldered a wire from the power button, and ran it to my center console box, where I have a small button that I can use to turn it on/off as I wish.

I kept changing my mind on how I wanted to mount the display to the bezel. I decided on using some sticky hot glue I had laying around, as it hold VERY well, yet, isn't completely permanent, if I ever change my mind, or if a better tablet becomes available. It's not the prettiest looking mounting option, but it works well and is easy to work with when aligning the display with the bezel.

I don't have any images of the tablet taken apart, as I never really thought about it. But, here it is when I first mounted to my bezel.

http://www.strizzyphoto.com/photos/i-hwQXBPn/0/XL/i-hwQXBPn-XL.jpg

You can see the power plug sticks out about 1/8" below the bezel. I thought I would have been able to force it in the dash opening, but that didn't work out, so I removed the plug and soldered the leads to the board.

I had to remove the center console to drill the opening for the USB power plug and 3.5mm jack.

http://www.strizzyphoto.com/photos/i-6jTkz6S/0/XL/i-6jTkz6S-XL.jpg

The light grey dot in the upper left portion of the next photo is my power button. You can also see where I drilled a 1/4" opening for the wiring to come through.

http://www.strizzyphoto.com/photos/i-JqHvW97/0/XL/i-JqHvW97-XL.jpg

Better shot of the hole I drilled.

http://www.strizzyphoto.com/photos/i-rSG6Grc/0/XL/i-rSG6Grc-XL.jpg

Plug for my switch, so I can easily remove my center console, if needed, without removing the switch.

http://www.strizzyphoto.com/photos/i-2cnk36P/0/XL/i-2cnk36P-XL.jpg

Close up the wiring. Since everything on the board is for surface mount, I used hot glue as a strain relief so nothing could come lose, or solder joints break. The blue piece is plastic I cut from an oil container that I used to hold the main board in place.

http://www.strizzyphoto.com/photos/i-MTGQNX4/0/XL/i-MTGQNX4-XL.jpg

Overall, this wasn't a tough project if you have the proper tools and have good soldering skills. Surface mount soldering is not an easy task, especially when the spots you are soldering to are around .5mm.

I'm quite happy with the outcome.

http://www.strizzyphoto.com/photos/i-Pdm3wjq/0/XL/i-Pdm3wjq-XL.jpg

http://www.strizzyphoto.com/photos/i-c4Nckw4/0/XL/i-c4Nckw4-XL.jpg

Even though the device doesn't have a GPS chip, it somehow knew my exact location on Google Maps when I was connected to wifi via tethering thru my phone. I didn't get a chance to drive around and test if it really works, but when the weather get better, I definitely will.

Here's a short video of the screen turning on/off with the ignition (device was not in sleep mode during this). The humming you hear in the background is from my fuel pumps.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neg-XVnNbZQ]Android tablet infotainment Subaru Legacy - YouTube[/ame]

That's a pretty sweet deal on a tablet. $80 is not bad to have something to break apart like that. I never use the Nav in my car so lack of GPS is no biggie.

You could do what someone else did at the "Tablet as carputer" thread and use your existing buttons for power. You could also try Tasker or some of the other task apps and maybe you can have it turn on when it connects to wifi. That is if it has the ability to keep WiFi on while sleeping.

Google Maps can use your WiFi for location, but once you leave your house, it won't be able to get location from the phone through WiFi. But you can easily use your phone for navigation (I use Waze all the time, leaving my OEM Nav as a low res dynamic map).

In the other thread they have been using a 2012 Nexus 7 and have also been using the JDM bezel without the buttons. I might want to use that and keep the stock screen and bezel intact to go back to stock if needed.

Nice job.

Question: If you have the map up giving guidance directions, is there a way to have media controls docked to the side of the screen or something so you can skip through songs without having to flip between apps?

Finally had the time last weekend to get the CS9200RV installed. Looks good, but still having issues with sound not coming from my rear speakers. Guess the OEM monitor isn't hookep up to the rear speakers ?

Anybody know a good replacement for the windows mediaplayer in windows ce 6.0 ?