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So my BPV Sense hose connects from the small nipple on the BPV and then runs down and connects to that blue T-fitting not the manifold..... Is something wrong with my car....

Yes.

See here: http://www.cobbtuning.com/Technical-Articles-s/70674.htm

Or, of course, you have traced the hose incorrectly... that is, you are wrong.

That article looks nothing like my car.....

Your video looks just like my 06 but as I stated above - I thought that T fitting was no more after MY 07 based on other research and from your car model under your name I thought you had an 08.

My BLUE T-Fitting under the intercooler has all 3 lines zip tied and a drop of super glue on them.

On the turbo side there is a TAN T-Fitting that has 3 lines on it. All 3 of those have clamps. That is the side with the restrictor pill in it.

So do I have all the lines secure now?

My BLUE T-Fitting under the intercooler has all 3 lines zip tied and a drop of super glue on them.

 

On the turbo side there is a TAN T-Fitting that has 3 lines on it. All 3 of those have clamps. That is the side with the restrictor pill in it.

 

So do I have all the lines secure now?

Yes. Sorry if I wasn't real clear in my explanation but you have it right.

Yes. Sorry if I wasn't real clear in my explanation but you have it right.

Awesome! Thank you sir.

Having seen your video it is clear your BPV is connected correctly. The confusion is over the generic use of the labeling of the T... YOU have a T there, but it functionally still connects (via the other side of the T) to the nipple referenced in the BP Mod instructions. So instead of just the one line from the BPV needing clamped/secured, you have at least three there. The little hose that goes from that T you have and the Intake Manifold nipple still needs clamped/glued.

My 11 WRX did not have that T, the BPV line went singularly to the IM nipple. My STi is different. My 05 Legacy GT was different. But they all still work the same, logically. To my knowledge there is no sensible hose routing information, anywhere. Even Subaru manuals only provide disjointed concepts, but no overall, visually useable, hose routing. You have to create your own, either put in on paper or pictures or have it secure in your mind.

I posted the link to the boost control circuitry to give a general idea, for even that is simplified and doesn't factually depict the actual circuitry in all cars. If you investigate your boost control, as well as other hoses, you will find you have other Ts as well.

It would be of large value to define where the small line goes from the T you have videoed... instead of just saying it goes into the engine somewhere. The problems people encounter are due to a (stupid) engineering failure by Subaru to provide barbed connectors for their vacuum/BOOST hoses. Vacuum is no problem, of course. But once the hoses are moved, age changes the rubber, or boost in excess of stock is applied to these hoses they begin to fail by blowing off. In most cases when they blow off it only causes inconvenience... but if your Fuel Pressure Sense Hose blows off you will probably need a new motor. There are a bunch of hoses, all need secured. Super-glueing and zip-ties are better than nothing. Super glue and a corbin clamp are ideal. Your car, your fixes.

FWIW, Subaru implements their boost control in a variety of visually different configurations. However, they all work the same, and that Cobb article explains the logic. It is the mark of a thorough and responsible owner/modder to become familiar with ALL the hoses and components on their car, and not treat a single one as a "mystery" part that goes "somewhere." Otherwise, someday, you or someone else will be looking for the facts when dictated by problems, as opposed to foreseeing those problems and eliminating them preemptively.

Pardon my introduction of uncertainty, but it highlights an issue as yet without resolution.

Having seen your video it is clear your BPV is connected correctly. The confusion is over the generic use of the labeling of the T... YOU have a T there, but it functionally still connects (via the other side of the T) to the nipple referenced in the BP Mod instructions. So instead of just the one line from the BPV needing clamped/secured, you have at least three there. The little hose that goes from that T you have and the Intake Manifold nipple still needs clamped/glued.

 

My 11 WRX did not have that T, the BPV line went singularly to the IM nipple. My STi is different. My 05 Legacy GT was different. But they all still work the same, logically. To my knowledge there is no sensible hose routing information, anywhere. Even Subaru manuals only provide disjointed concepts, but no overall, visually useable, hose routing. You have to create your own, either put in on paper or pictures or have it secure in your mind.

 

I posted the link to the boost control circuitry to give a general idea, for even that is simplified and doesn't factually depict the actual circuitry in all cars. If you investigate your boost control, as well as other hoses, you will find you have other Ts as well.

 

It would be of large value to define where the small line goes from the T you have videoed... instead of just saying it goes into the engine somewhere. The problems people encounter are due to a (stupid) engineering failure by Subaru to provide barbed connectors for their vacuum/BOOST hoses. Vacuum is no problem, of course. But once the hoses are moved, age changes the rubber, or boost in excess of stock is applied to these hoses they begin to fail by blowing off. In most cases when they blow off it only causes inconvenience... but if your Fuel Pressure Sense Hose blows off you will probably need a new motor. There are a bunch of hoses, all need secured. Super-glueing and zip-ties are better than nothing. Super glue and a corbin clamp are ideal. Your car, your fixes.

 

FWIW, Subaru implements their boost control in a variety of visually different configurations. However, they all work the same, and that Cobb article explains the logic. It is the mark of a thorough and responsible owner/modder to become familiar with ALL the hoses and components on their car, and not treat a single one as a "mystery" part that goes "somewhere." Otherwise, someday, you or someone else will be looking for the facts when dictated by problems, as opposed to foreseeing those problems and eliminating them preemptively.

 

Pardon my introduction of uncertainty, but it highlights an issue as yet without resolution.

I totally see and agree with where you're going with that statement. I plan to spend a few hours one day tracing vacuum lines and making sure everything is secure.

Thank you for your insight.

bump for a good guy with a quality product and great instructions

Dave

No problem, your doing a great service for all the guys that dont want to go overboard JUST for reliability. Now your international!

Dave

Thanks, Dave.

 

I'm about to ship off a kit to Finland this week! Craziness.

^Curious to know who that is cause there are VERY few LGT/OBXTs in Europa land.

^Curious to know who that is cause there are VERY few LGT/OBXTs in Europa land.

Nonsense. Switzerland for example is awash with them.

Nonsense. Switzerland for example is awash with them.

I am referring to the LGT and OBXT as per USDM specs (EJ255). Switzerland may have been the only country which really sold the LGT for a short time (and maybe a bit Germany) that I know of. Just lived 2 years in Scandinavia and currently in France (driving my OBXT). They have never been sold in most of these euro countries. If there are any OBXTs, they must have been imported from the states. In most of euro land, they just sell the 2.5i, 3.6R, and 2.0D. I know a guy from Finland who just bought an LGT which he got from California, and another dude from Spain who imported the engine from Florida.

current models in Switzerland for the OB: http://www.subaru.ch/data/docs/download/1065/fr/Outback-Caracteristiques-techniques-Equipement.pdf

current legacy models in Germany: http://www.subaru.de/fileadmin/downloads/modelle/legacy/PreiseDaten/Legacy_2012_10_08FINAL.pdf

I received my kit late last week. Haven't had time to install yet...

I will probably install it this week.