poom Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Just got a 2012 Ice silver Legacy 3.6R Limited. I have been lurking this forum for quite some time now. Why is there no performance mods for the 3.6? Would love to get a air intake. All I see for mods for this car is whats offered from the dealership. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I googled and searched the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaty Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Air intakes really won't get you much, anything really, on a stock motor except sound. Peaty, 2019 Imp Sport 5 Dr (Mine) 2013 Outback Premium (Wife's) 2010 Legacy 3.6R (Son), 2001 Forester S (other son) 1999 Miata (my summer ride) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSniper Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Intakes = waste of time and money, in order to reap the benefits of an intake, you have to get your car tuned which is $$$. In the end the benefit is not even worth it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamic_3.6 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Yeah there's not really much in the way of engine mods for the 3.6. I would focus on suspension mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seiyafan Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 yep, go for suspension mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailKill Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Just got a 2012 Ice silver Legacy 3.6R Limited. I have been lurking this forum for quite some time now. Why is there no performance mods for the 3.6? Would love to get a air intake. All I see for mods for this car is whats offered from the dealership. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I googled and searched the forum. Can you post a pic of your Ice Silver '12? Curious to see what a real world Legacy looks like with that color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmspecb Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 It's so weird to me, being a subaru newbie, that intakes do nothing for these cars... I'm coming from an RSX type S, where I netted about 12whp from a cold air intake! I'm not kidding either. My stock baseline was about 172 whp, 184 after the CAI, then after I added a race header, exhaust and a different intake manifold and got it tuned... I ended up with 225 whp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 You aren't going to gain much with a 3.6 N/A engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 It's so weird to me, being a subaru newbie, that intakes do nothing for these cars... I'm coming from an RSX type S, where I netted about 12whp from a cold air intake! I'm not kidding either. My stock baseline was about 172 whp, 184 after the CAI, then after I added a race header, exhaust and a different intake manifold and got it tuned... I ended up with 225 whp. and 125 ft lbs. of torque Don't waste your money. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmspecb Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 You aren't going to gain much with a 3.6 N/A engine. I gained over 50whp with a 2.0 N/A engine :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmspecb Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 and 125 ft lbs. of torque Don't waste your money. hahaha hey don't shortchange me... I ended up with 161 ft-lbs. I don't have a 3.6r, i'vt got an 08 spec B, just felt like commenting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I gained over 50whp with a 2.0 N/A engine :lol: So engine, mods, dyno? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmspecb Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 So engine, mods, dyno? 2.0 liter K20Z1 201 CHP Injen Cold Air Intake Hondata intake manifold spacer Honda RBC intake manifold (from the civic SI) Club rsx Race Header Buddy Club Pro Spec Exhaust 2.5" K-pro, e-tuned by magnesium tuning. Dyno'd at Autospeed, NJ. It is a mustang dyno. http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/vdlion717/Dyno.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmspecb Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Don't want to get off topic here, but I was asked lol. I ran a best of 14.1 @ 100mph with a shitty launch. 2.35ish 60' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasWG Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 He was asked and he produced. Nicely done mmmmspecb! As for 3.6R engine performance. Well there is really nothing. A set of Axle Back Exhaust mufflers might add a weeeeeeeee bit, but that's really not why people do it. It's more about opening up that very quiet exhaust system and getting to hear that wonderful motor sing! But I didn't buy my 3.6R to make into a HP monster. For me, the 256HP that came with it stock is fine. And the ability to use 85 octane gas and still get decent performance is really cool! Yeah I'd like to see a few more ponies, but at what cost? Right now there just isn't anyone doing anything for these cars and if they do, it will only be expensive. Not a great option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmspecb Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 He was asked and he produced. Nicely done mmmmspecb! As for 3.6R engine performance. Well there is really nothing. A set of Axle Back Exhaust mufflers might add a weeeeeeeee bit, but that's really not why people do it. It's more about opening up that very quiet exhaust system and getting to hear that wonderful motor sing! But I didn't buy my 3.6R to make into a HP monster. For me, the 256HP that came with it stock is fine. And the ability to use 85 octane gas and still get decent performance is really cool! Yeah I'd like to see a few more ponies, but at what cost? Right now there just isn't anyone doing anything for these cars and if they do, it will only be expensive. Not a great option. Kinda sucks that there isn't a great aftermarket for the 3.6... The VQ35 has a huge aftermarket and people have sucked a ton of power out of those engines... I know it's possible. I guess aftermarket companies aren't even bothering due high cost of R+D on a new engine along with low number of owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasWG Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Well it's not just engine mods, but the suspensions on the 3.6R are an odd mix of bits too that tuners aren't really addressing. The stuff that was designed for the 2.5GT cars "fits" the 3.6R cars, but doesn't really work the same way it does on the GTs. So all the love is for the 2.5GTs and none for the 2.5i or 3.6R, oh well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Not trying to be mean but I don't think an N/A Honda platform is relevant. Also VQ's don't make shit for power N/A. You can do an intake, plenum spacer and full exhaust and tune and it's still pretty meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaty Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 It's so weird to me, being a subaru newbie, that intakes do nothing for these cars... I'm coming from an RSX type S, where I netted about 12whp from a cold air intake! I'm not kidding either. My stock baseline was about 172 whp, 184 after the CAI, then after I added a race header, exhaust and a different intake manifold and got it tuned... I ended up with 225 whp. +/- 12 is well within the error rate for a dyno. You'd have to dyno your car about 15X with each variable to get anything that would be statistically significant. Peaty, 2019 Imp Sport 5 Dr (Mine) 2013 Outback Premium (Wife's) 2010 Legacy 3.6R (Son), 2001 Forester S (other son) 1999 Miata (my summer ride) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 2.0 liter K20Z1 201 CHP Injen Cold Air Intake Hondata intake manifold spacer Honda RBC intake manifold (from the civic SI) Club rsx Race Header Buddy Club Pro Spec Exhaust 2.5" K-pro, e-tuned by magnesium tuning. Dyno'd at Autospeed, NJ. It is a mustang dyno. this is the key thing. without the tune, the other mods are not so effective and its the same for the 3.6R. the only thing is there is no reasonably priced tuning base for the 3.6R like there is for the hondas. So bolt on's are generally a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmspecb Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Not trying to be mean but I don't think an N/A Honda platform is relevant. Also VQ's don't make shit for power N/A. You can do an intake, plenum spacer and full exhaust and tune and it's still pretty meh. haha, well to each his own... I'm in the Subaru world now if it means anything... I can almost guarantee I would have been able to beat a stage 2 LGT from any sort of roll. Even without the tune, Strictly Bolt-on rsx's are making 210ish whp. You should see what strictly N/A K24's can do... 300whp... awesome stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Hondas are the fastest Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CL21376 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I can almost guarantee I would have been able to beat a stage 2 LGT from any sort of roll. Even without the tune, Strictly Bolt-on rsx's are making 210ish whp. I ran a best of 14.1 @ 100mph with a shitty launch. 2.35ish 60' Considering that is about what a stock LGT runs, I kinda doubt it. Rutchard is stage 2 and ran a 12.9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3.6subie Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I wouldn't turn away increased HP, but I don't need it either. When I get the money I am going to enjoy some suspension upgrades and tinted windows to start. Thinking brembo brakes later. I may do the intake and exhaust too. I know it isn't going to add much, but it may sound nicer, which is worth it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted October 4, 2011 Moderators Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'm not really too knowledgeable on this subject, but figured I'd chime in since no one has even mentioned the option to supercharge a larger displacement engine. Can this not be down on the 3.6 Legacy? There seems to be some info out there related to throwing a supercharger on 3.0 engines...http://www.raptorsc.com.au/. That would be a pretty amazing jump in power, kind of expensive tho! I'm sure there are other options out there for something like this...No? "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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