tommypenguin Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Aside from worrying about cracking headers, which I'm not worried, would those who have done headers do it again? Were you pleased with the way the car sounded? I'm well aware of the sound difference between EL and Non-El headers. Did any of you have any issues with the heat from the headers melting anything? I'm stage 2 and been debating on picking up a set up MR headers, haven't heard of anyone's cracking that wasn't coated. What risks besides cracking should I consider when putting some uncoated headers on my car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whobaru Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 No. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whobaru Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Thanks for the informative response ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 No problem, I am pretty sure that I answered the question How about this - no because there is no benefit and they never last. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whobaru Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 There must be SOME reason someone would put them on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 There must be SOME reason someone would put them on! They are cool and the ladies love them Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommypenguin Posted September 27, 2007 Author Share Posted September 27, 2007 No. Very informative. Would I be better off spending my money else where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtmenace Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 They are cool and the ladies love them Ladies Love Cool Headers LLCool H!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawl Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Very informative. Would I be better off spending my money else where? yes. car for sale. PM me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommypenguin Posted September 27, 2007 Author Share Posted September 27, 2007 I'm going to do the headers just to be cooler. I'm going to start smoking cigarettes again also and start listening to LL cool J while I'm at it. Any one have a cig I can bum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0032 Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 They get you laid just look at BJ and LBGT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 I am sure the pro-header folks will be in here before too long.... Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0032 Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 but until then http://www.partyworksoutlet.com/images/lets%20party.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whobaru Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtmenace Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 someone call photobucket and tell them to put a hold on RC's account!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0032 Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c315/KYLiquid/Forum%20Pictures/hijacklive.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommypenguin Posted September 27, 2007 Author Share Posted September 27, 2007 Whats sad is that I was actually looking for some serious answers instead this has turned into the laughing stock of the forum. If anyone who has a serious answer wants to break the madness in this thread feel free to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtmenace Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 i like headers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianspi Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 A search for "headers" brought up copious amounts of information. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68470&highlight=headers enough zip ties and duct tape will fix anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommypenguin Posted September 27, 2007 Author Share Posted September 27, 2007 If you even read that thread or my questions you would have saw that I posted in it, and didn't get the answers I was looking for. I've been searching for a week and haven't found definitive answers to my questions. I'm looking at the negatives to headers, I know they put out gains. I'm not worried about cracking, I just want to know what preventative measures I should take to ensure I won't melt anything, I'm trying to find if melting is a common problem. Basically is there a decent chance the heat from the headers could damage something near the piping because the headers I'm looking at are uncoated? Second, I've read a couple people with certain types of headers had rattles, how common is this? I wouldn't be getting a protune for a few months would I be safe to run my car w/o a tune with headers for a few months or does the car run lean? I take it you are not supposed to plug the sensor into the bung hole on the header? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whobaru Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Post number two of that link should more than answer your question. Don't bother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommypenguin Posted September 27, 2007 Author Share Posted September 27, 2007 Post number two of that link should more than answer your question. Don't bother! Post number 2 from that link just says that the fweasal has known two people to put headers on and had them crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j0ebert Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 For starters, I don't think they sound that good. We tried to track down a leak for over a week because of the "raspiness" but everything was sealed fine. Power gains: meh. 261/316 (stage 2 protuned) or something. Felt like a slight increase in top end but that's not saying much (ie save for new turbo). Even with the coated MR, the plastic has started to sag down. Save your money for a new turbo and enjoy your bulletproof cast iron wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostjunkie Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I was actually just looking at some dyno graphs today. One car had MR headers and the other had stock manifolds and an Invidia uppipe. Otherwise they were 100% identical. Both had Invidia catless DP's and MR catbacks. The car with the headers made about 13whp more and the same peak torque, but held on to peak torque for quite a bit longer than the stock header car and had a lot more area under the curve. It's probably worth noting that the headers car was just running an OTS tune and the stock manifold car had a real Protune. I'll post up the charts tomorrow. Headers do make power regardless of what the haters say. I have not had a single cracking issue on any of the non-coated headers I've sold. The stock manifolds are more longterm durable, but for the length of time that most people own their cars I honestly think it's kind of a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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