nick.cfrancis Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I admit defeat. The instrument cluster has won. I attempted to do the instrument cluster color change. But... I broke the engine temperature needle and the tachometer needle doesn't move now. So I am throwing in the towel and buying this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/97-LEGACY-SPEEDOMETER-INSTRUMENT-PANEL-CLUSTER-43K-/370206708218?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item56320a11fa#ht_1079wt_1163 Or http://www.ebay.com/itm/97-OUTBACK-LEGACY-SPEEDOMETER-INSTRUMENT-CLUSTER-/180696277169?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1997|Make%3ASubaru|Model%3ALegacy&vxp=mtr&hash=item2a125660b1#shId Relevant information (my car): 1997 Subaru Legacy GT 167,000 miles My questions: 1. Does it matter if the instrument cluster comes from an Outback even though I have a Legacy GT? 2. If the instrument cluster comes from a car with smaller wheels, will the speedometer have to be recalibarated? How do I do this? 3. Is there a way to fix the mileage? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 On the same model year the circumference is the same (or close to at least) on Outback and Legacy, so that's the least of your problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 17, 2011 I Donated Share Posted October 17, 2011 There are two different speedometers. One is 120mph and one is 140mph. Make sure you stick with whatever one you already have or else it will read all kinds of messed up. Other then that, they are plug and play between the Legacy L, Legacy GT, Legacy Outback, and Legacy SUS. I think the 99 models are not compatible with earlier ones though. -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick.cfrancis Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 Thanks! But what about the odometer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 17, 2011 I Donated Share Posted October 17, 2011 What about it? Do you mean if your current one says 130,000 miles and your new one says 210,000 miles, what do you do? There really isn't anything you can do. -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick.cfrancis Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 Ok. I figured that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 17, 2011 I Donated Share Posted October 17, 2011 You can try to find one thats close to the mileage you have...thats about as good as you can do -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick.cfrancis Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 I bought this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/180696277169?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_1012wt_1396 It is pretty close (only about 10,000 more). Hopefully it will all work out. I still can't believe I broke it. I didn't realize how thin those needles really are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stasis Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 You could use the parts from the new on on your old one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick.cfrancis Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 I could... How easy is it to swap the tachometer motor? After I removed and reinstalled the needle, it doesn't move anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Better to not touch. And make sure that the one you bought works with your car first before you start to toy around with it. Aside from the imperial measurement instrument clusters you can get metric instrument clusters too, but then you have to get them from Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecBamf41 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 you can change the odometer. i did it in my last car. changed if from like 210 to 498,300 BNR18g on 93oct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David E Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Swagon_Wagon, Do you have awrite up on how to change the mileage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemingway Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Nick - sorry to hear about your gauge problems. Excellent advice and suggestions so far. One more: thoroughly document the how's, what's and why's when you make the swap. Maybe resale isn't a big concern of yours, but having thorough documentation on the mileage discrepancy could be the difference between a sale or no sale, or even the asking price. It probably won't be the last car that you own and you may need to sell it in the future. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zues Marine Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Swagon_Wagon, Do you have awrite up on how to change the mileage? take out the speedo gauge, then remove the needle, unscrew the gauge face to remove it and gain access to the odo...once youve got the number wheels exposed you can see its pretty easy.. lift up the 'lock' clamp and hold it up while you roll back the mileage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David E Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Zues, Got it opened up, but I'm not sure what the "lock" clamp is.Attached a photo - can you point it out? I need to get it up to ~195k. Tks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darederek Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 i would assume the little white pieces at the top that stop them from spinning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemingway Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Whatever you do, don't reassemble it, put your car on a jack and jam the gas pedal down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zues Marine Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 i would assume the little white pieces at the top that stop them from spinning yep, this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David E Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Got it done!!! Put some painters tape on the backside of the odometer to hold the gears and retainers in place. Used a small screwdriver to pry out the right side of the rod holding the gears. This allows turning the number wheels to the correct mileage. You have to rotate the gears a little to sync with the number wheels as you push the rod back into the holder. Then reassemble it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenva Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 It would have been easier to just swap the temp gauge and the tach. They simply un-screw RIP 96 Legacy 2.2 4EAT lost reverse @ 374,000 miles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleaidestar Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Both ways are pretty informative, I been afraid to mess with mine past loosening it from the dash. Everything seems to brittle and a mindf*** that everything will fall out....I need to swap a gas guage, and like the stainless bezel and white cluster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenva Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 It's easy to do. Each gauge is it's own unit and can be removed independently. When you refer to a white cluster are you talking about the illumination color, or white background/black letter replacement inlays. RIP 96 Legacy 2.2 4EAT lost reverse @ 374,000 miles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleaidestar Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 The white background looks very nice I wouldn't mind doing the color change either, the green lights are kind of ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenva Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/cold-cathode-tubes-cluster-198512.html?t=198512&highlight=cluster RIP 96 Legacy 2.2 4EAT lost reverse @ 374,000 miles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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