mkaresh Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I wanted more up-to-date auto reliability information that included actual repair rates. So in late 2005 I started getting people together to make this possible. TrueDelta now updates reliability stats four times a year, so we can provide quick results on new models then track cars closely as they age. We've had excellent participation by Legacy and Outback owners, with over 650 signed up. Among the 2010s, 29 have already signed up. If we get to 40 by the end of November we're almost certain to have a full result in February--far ahead of any other source. Participants simply report repairs the month after they occur on a one-page survey. When there are no repairs, they simply report an approximate odometer reading four times a year, at the end of each quarter. To encourage participation, participants receive full access to all results, for free. Results for the Legacy are shared with this forum, as we have them. For the details, and to sign up to help make this happen: Car reliability research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkaresh Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 75 2010s--57 Outbacks + 18 Legacies--now signed up, so looking very good for a result in February. Thanks, guys. More would of course be even better. The more owners participate, the more precise these initial stats will be. Car reliability research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minuccims Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 This looks like a good thing to participate in. Who's already enrolled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAS2.5 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Consumer Reports and Car & Driver ,magazine is your friend. Go to your local Barnes and Nobles, you will find the 2010 auto buyers guide with the reliability ratings of that model vehicle for several years. BTW the 2010 Legacy is on the recommend buy list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Ned Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 I'm in. No problems to date, only joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkaresh Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 Consumer Reports and Car & Driver ,magazine is your friend. Go to your local Barnes and Nobles, you will find the 2010 auto buyers guide with the reliability ratings of that model vehicle for several years. BTW the 2010 Legacy is on the recommend buy list. C&D has no reliability data at all. CR's data is nearly a year old at this point, and doesn't include the 2010. They're recommending it based on the previous generation car's record. We'll have a result for the 2010 soon based on data through the end of 2009. And this will be the only reliability stat anywhere for the 2010 Legacy. Couldn't have done it without owners' help. Thanks, guys. Additional participants always helpful. Not yet signed up? Details here: Car reliability research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkaresh Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 We have our first reliability stat for the 2010 Subaru Legacy based on owner experiences through December 31, 2009. The reported repair frequency of 30 repair trips per 100 cars per year is better than average, and is especially good for an all-new car. Everyone who has been helping--thanks, I certainly appreciate it. We'll have further updates in May and August. The more owners participate, the better the information we can provide. Subaru Legacy reliability comparisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waaazooo Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I enrolled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goormove Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Just signed up - 2010 LGT My uncle has been a member for a long while - SVX and A6 - he used to talk about it a lot. Unfortunately, he had a stroke and isn't reporting any more as they have driven a total of about 2000 miles in the last 8 months. I'll keep the SVX going as long as I am driving it too... Shimmy Poll and Info post Check out my shimmy update - 5th Gen Legacy forum My Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkaresh Posted April 24, 2010 Author Share Posted April 24, 2010 Very sorry to hear about your uncle. Updated stats next month. We've had huge participation by 2010 owners. Of course, more is always better. Car reliability research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkaresh Posted May 29, 2010 Author Share Posted May 29, 2010 We have an updated reliability stat for the 2010 Subaru Legacy based on owner experiences through March 31, 2010. The reported repair frequency of 24 repair trips per 100 cars per year is better than average, and is especially good for an all-new car. Everyone who has been helping--thanks, I certainly appreciate it. We'll have further updates in August and November. The more owners participate, the better the information we can provide. Subaru Legacy reliability comparisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkaresh Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 In a couple of weeks we'll start previewing the next set of results to participants. The preview results will be updated as responses come in. Especially need 2011s. To help provide the best possible information on your year: Car reliability research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shertz Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 i enrolled my civic si - i'm on true delta quite a bit actually - great site great idea. I really hope it catches on karesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C6Driver Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Just enrolled my 2010 Legacy 3.6R. It goes to the dealer in the morning for TWO recalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkaresh Posted August 13, 2010 Author Share Posted August 13, 2010 Thank you, I appreciate it. One note: recalls should be reported, but we don't count them as repairs in the reliability analysis if they're preventive. The site has been doing quite well, thanks to the thousands of car owners who have been helping. Updated stats in a few days. Not yet involved? Here's where to go: Car reliability research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingray1967 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I'll enroll whenever my 2011 LGT gets here....probably September at this point.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottoman45 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I enrolled this afternoon... good luck with the site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Marker Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I'll sign up when I take delivery sometime in late September.....3.6R LTD. 2011 Volvo S60T6 & 2013 Volvo XC60T6 Polestar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkaresh Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 Thanks, guys, I appreciate it. Car Reliability Survey results for the Subaru Legacy and Outback have been updated again to include owner experiences through June 30, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the more recent months until the summer or even fall of next year. With a reported repair frequency of 30 repair trips per 100 cars per year, the 2010 is better than average despite a common problem with steering vibrations. Thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in November and February. The more owners participate, the better the information we can provide. Especially need more 2011s. To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help: Subaru Legacy / Outback reliability comparisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkaresh Posted December 26, 2010 Author Share Posted December 26, 2010 We have updated Car Reliability Survey results again for the Subaru Legacy and Outback to include owner experiences through September 30, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the months since April until the summer or even fall of next year. Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 vehicles per year: 2011: 91 - worse than average but small sample size, likely to be lower with the next update 2010: 30 - better than average despite a common problem with steering vibrations We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop. For the 2010 these are 87 and 2, respectively. Subaru Legacy Lemon-odds and Nada-odds Thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in February and May. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years. To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help: Subaru Legacy reliability ratings and comparisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Marker Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 We have updated Car Reliability Survey results again for the Subaru Legacy and Outback to include owner experiences through September 30, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the months since April until the summer or even fall of next year. Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 vehicles per year: 2011: 91 - worse than average but small sample size, likely to be lower with the next update 2010: 30 - better than average despite a common problem with steering vibrations We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop. For the 2010 these are 87 and 2, respectively. Subaru Legacy Lemon-odds and Nada-odds Thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in February and May. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years. To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help: Subaru Legacy reliability ratings and comparisons Signed up, but it says not enough 2011 3.6R owners are enrolled. 2011 Volvo S60T6 & 2013 Volvo XC60T6 Polestar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkaresh Posted March 6, 2011 Author Share Posted March 6, 2011 Car Reliability Survey results for the Subaru Legacy and Outback have been updated again to include owner experiences through December 31, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the months since April until the summer or even fall of this year. Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 vehicles per year: 2011: 48 - now about average 2010: 34 - better than average despite a common problem with steering vibrations We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop. For the 2010 these stats are 81 and 1, respectively. Subaru Legacy Lemon-odds and Nada-odds Thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in May and August. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years. To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help: Subaru Legacy / Outback reliability ratings and comparisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkaresh Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 Car Reliability Survey results for the Subaru Legacy and Outback have been updated again to include owner experiences through March 31, 2011. Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 vehicles per year: 2011: 36 - better than average 2010: 37 - better than average despite a common problem with steering vibrations We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop. For those years with enough data these are: 2010: 77, 1 Subaru Legacy Lemon-odds and Nada-odds We'll have further updates in August and November. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years. To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information: Subaru Legacy / Outback reliability ratings and comparisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud72 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I think this is a fantastic idea, but I can't help but think you're going to get skewed results as those that have problems are more likely to sign up and report them as opposed to those that haven't largely couldn't be bothered. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkaresh Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 This is a very common problem with the typical, one time survey. This survey, though, is ongoing and collects data beginning when people sign up. Past repairs are excluded from the analysis. This design has proven very effective at preventing the problem you describe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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