5th Earth Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 So, I just got my car back from it's 90k service, and the shop noticed the upper radiator hose needs to be replaced (they're right, I double-checked it myself). However, the shop says that because the radiator is over 8 years old, I need to replace it too, otherwise the plastic end tanks will be at risk of cracking when the new hoses are clamped on. If not right away, then they'll probably go at some inconvenient time in the future. There's a big price difference between one new hose and a whole new radiator. Has anyone heard of this being a problem? Should I bite the bullet and replace everything, or take my chances with the hose only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc6 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 What are they quoting you in price? I had my nipple to the turbo overflow crack on my 05 radiator back in 09. I'm actually replacing everything but not all is oem. 2005 Satin White Pearl Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT Unlimited 5EAT (Project Car) 2019 Agate Black Ford Explorer XLT 4WD (DD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Before they crack, the tanks will go a sort of greenish-grey color vs. the original black. I replace them when they change color, not at any particular age. Just go to an alloy radiator and avoid replacing it again. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 http://www.infamousperformance.net PM m sprank, that's his site. he can take care of all your needs. Most us upgrade to a Aluminum radiator I still run OEM hoses to it. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragman Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 A good oem quality replacement radiator can be bought from RockAuto for under $100. And yes, your plastic end caps on the old radiator will begin leaking at some point in your future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5th Earth Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 Thanks for the advice. They're quoting me $321, parts and labor, which gets me a new radiator and new upper and lower hoses. The radiator itself is $242 of that, which seems pretty steep now that I look at online prices. I'm inclined to go ahead and replace it, but there may be cheaper options. Unfortunately, my car is an automatic (I have to commute in it, so I compromised). IIRC that makes sourcing an all-aluminum radiator difficult. Unless one of you knows something I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc6 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Popular mod is aux trans oil cooler but I replaced my rad with another plastic one with internal tranny lanes and exchanger. I have it going radiator then aux cooler. Being I was looking to get back on the road as fast as possible I didn't go all aluminum. Seeing how long I had the car already, i may go that route next time. 2005 Satin White Pearl Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT Unlimited 5EAT (Project Car) 2019 Agate Black Ford Explorer XLT 4WD (DD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 My alloy rad has the ATF cooling circuit there, it's just blanked off. Sent from some electronic device. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitrzac Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 My alloy rad has the ATF cooling circuit there, it's just blanked off. Sent from some electronic device. brand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I believe the Mishimoto I got from Underdog has bungs for a 5eat. PM "Underdog" ask him 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxkita Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 So, I just got my car back from it's 90k service, and the shop noticed the upper radiator hose needs to be replaced (they're right, I double-checked it myself). However, the shop says that because the radiator is over 8 years old, I need to replace it too, otherwise the plastic end tanks will be at risk of cracking when the new hoses are clamped on. If not right away, then they'll probably go at some inconvenient time in the future. There's a big price difference between one new hose and a whole new radiator. Has anyone heard of this being a problem? Should I bite the bullet and replace everything, or take my chances with the hose only? My OEM radiator failed. It's expensive to fix, far more than the cost of a new radiator. An alloy (Koyo or Mishimoto) is cheap insurance. Build my car Boxkita Track days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesleyCrowbar Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Are new fans necessary to run a Koyo or Mishimoto? I've gotta replace mine since PIA discovered a small crack in mine today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Nope, you can use the stock fans, which bolt right up. Sent from some electronic device. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Make sure you have enough clearance between the top hose and the fan blade. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5th Earth Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Update: I've decided to replace the whole radiator. Although it looked pretty new (might have been replaced sometime before I bought the car), I figure better safe than sorry when it comes to the cooling system. Re: Mishimoto radiators, it doesn't look like any of their models have fittings for autos. Maybe they made one that's not listed though. I think the only solution for autos is to get a separate transmission cooler. But I'm not planning on any major power mods or towing in the near future so it's not a high priority to upgrade the cooling system that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Update: I've decided to replace the whole radiator. Although it looked pretty new (might have been replaced sometime before I bought the car), I figure better safe than sorry when it comes to the cooling system. Good move. I've seen lots of aftermath from failures, especially from people who don't look at the gauges until the engine stalls. I'm really careful around cars with stock, grubby engine bays with the only clean part being a new radiator. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapture Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Yeah mine cracked along the top At like 94k And it def was NOT turning any other colors Or looking old at all But i decided to upgrade fans/hoses too all mishimoto ( great product) I really dont understand why people dont consider this before other mods?! Ive even been seeing less oil consumption Prob cause everythings cooler But hey ive got alot of mods and going a diff route/ path So for your needs prob not neccessary Good luck tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I see your in CA, PM m sprank and tell him what you need. He'll take good care of you. His shop is in CA. www.infamousperformance.net 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5th Earth Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 I see your in CA, PM m sprank and tell him what you need. He'll take good care of you. His shop is in CA. www.infamousperformance.net A nice thought, but Escondido is something like a nine hour drive from San Jose. Might order parts from them if I need them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Yea, but he's still closer to order from then someone on the east coast. Your new here. You'll see I have three places I highly recommend to buy parts from, two are on the east coast, Mike is on the west coast. m sprank will get you the right part the first time. He's someone your going to want to buy from and ask for help when needed. Support the guy's that support us here with free help. m sprank has a real repair shop, so he has a lot at stake. You can trust what he tells you. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapture Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Check craigslist too I found a mishi rad there for a great deal Brand new Worth a check.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artard Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Yea, but he's still closer to order from then someone on the east coast. Your new here. You'll see I have three places I highly recommend to buy parts from, two are on the east coast, Mike is on the west coast. m sprank will get you the right part the first time. He's someone your going to want to buy from and ask for help when needed. Support the guy's that support us here with free help. m sprank has a real repair shop, so he has a lot at stake. You can trust what he tells you. curious, who are the 2 vendors you'd vouch for on the east coast? thx Found coolant all over the radiator and saw something resembling a crack. anyone know if this is the normal area where it happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeuEmMaiMai Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 it seems to be hit or miss with radiators the one in my 1994 accord lasted 21 years and 208K miles when I sold it to my friend at 168K coolant was changed 2 X between 90K and 168K the one in my 2003 Subaru is still good after 13 years Coolant changed 3X in 90K miles the one in my 2002 Acura CL Type S is still going strong after 14 years coolant change 4x in 140K miles old coolant becomes acidic over time and that is most likely eating the seals on the rads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 curious, who are the 2 vendors you'd vouch for on the east coast? thx Found coolant all over the radiator and saw something resembling a crack. anyone know if this is the normal area where it happens? That would be, Rey or Mike at www.AZPinstalls.com in NJ or PM Underdog he's in Ayer MA. Either one can get you a OEM replacement or an Al. radiator. If you plan to keep the car the replacement radiator and new radiator cap's with upper and lower hoses before winter...is good preventative maintenance. Age is a facture with the hoses. If your sure the radiator is in great shape, if the Tech is careful removing the hose, the plastic tanks should be fine. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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