rapture Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 so be careful when removing /handling the injectors for return dw tried to say two of mine were "damaged " from removal and so they only gave me rebate on two trust me they were all fine!! so i would snap a few photo's before you do send them in that way if they the same bs you at least have some type of proof hindsight ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I have sent hundreds of DW injectors back for a core refund. Of those maybe 2 have been refused. DW is not indiscriminately denying core refunds. There was something wrong with the injectors that made then unusable for a rebuild. Simple as that. A pic does not prove there was not an internal issue or even shipping damage. Even if there were shenanigans (I believe there is not) 2 cores is better than 0 (what everyone else gives you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 If you have to do a SF to TF conversion, the price is not the same once you figure in the conversion parts needed. Just saw JM post this SF to TF conversion setup that doesn't require the TF TGVs, but allows you to use any of the ID TFIs. Like that it's a complete bolt-on solution and includes everything you need to install your ID injectors. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Catalyst. Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I saw that setup a while ago SBT, and it's how I'd convert if I went to 1000cc or more. That solution doesn't come without a price though. I realize that one poster already had TF, and I was making more of a generalization about the cost of the conversion needing to be factored in. My spec.B [#163] Project Thread with Pictures Get CryoTuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 Catalyst the NOT having to change out the SFI TGVs for TFI TGVs, whether OEM or converted/JDM-type, is a bonus. For $250.00 system price, you also eliminate the need for an AM fuel rail as well. Really like this option. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Catalyst. Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Catalyst the NOT having to change out the SFI TGVs for TFI TGVs, whether OEM or converted/JDM-type, is a bonus. For $250.00 system price, you also eliminate the need for an AM fuel rail as well. Really like this option. Totally agree with you. I've already got the solution in my "wish list" as I'd like to consider 1000cc TF if I go with a bigger snail My points were directly related to the post I quoted that said, "I second ID1000's awesome injectors. Drive just as good as the 750's and same price so no reason not to go with the 1000's." If you have SF in your car, DW740cc or DW850cc SF with rebate will be a lot cheaper than ID1000s, pigtails, and the T1 conversion setup. There is no doubt to me that if you need >850cc, that there is no better solution than ID1000cc with a top feed conversion for performance and reliability. My spec.B [#163] Project Thread with Pictures Get CryoTuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tema Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Totally agree with you. I've already got the solution in my "wish list" as I'd like to consider 1000cc TF if I go with a bigger snail My points were directly related to the post I quoted that said, "I second ID1000's awesome injectors. Drive just as good as the 750's and same price so no reason not to go with the 1000's." If you have SF in your car, DW740cc or DW850cc SF with rebate will be a lot cheaper than ID1000s, pigtails, and the T1 conversion setup. There is no doubt to me that if you need >850cc, that there is no better solution than ID1000cc with a top feed conversion for performance and reliability. According to some ID1000 flows only ca.900cc so no real advantage over DW850. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Not according to some. Proven via Flow Bench testing (RC Engineering) and the info given by the owner of ID. ID is too cheap to test their injectors with the industry standard testing fluid. So all ID flow numbers are high due to the fact that they are not following industry standards (due to cost). Makes me go Hmmmm... since ID is so highly regarded but too cheap to test their equipment using the same methods as every one else. Their injectors work nicely, but they dont flow as rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 So what is a quality-tested/assured TFI that does flow at spec? - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 DW sells brand new Bosch EV14's that are flow tested and rated using industry standards. Like I said, ID work great, just go in knowing when you buy a 1000cc set you are getting 900cc injectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 Noted. Rethinking. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixican Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Im about to pick up the IP&T oil line kit for my eventual upgrade. In order to satisfy BNR's requirements I only need the "Filtered Turbo Oil Supply Line Kit" correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphylee1983 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Total noob question. Any chance you guys would be willing to help out with a recommended parts list for replacing my blown vf40. Car is a 05 LGT with 121,000 on it. This is the second damn vf40 in 20,000 so I know I need to remove the oil line filters. I am just looking for some help picking out decent quality parts to go along with the upgrade without having to break the bank. I pretty much have decided on a BNR 16g. Any help you can give would be great. I would like to do the project for under $1500 if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 With that budget stay stock. Too many people who should never be considering an aftermarket turbo are. For $1300 you can have a new OEM turbo, complete install kit, 12month/12000 mile no questions asked warranty on the turbo and install it in a matter of hours. Back on the road. No modding, no tuning, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitskip Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Check out six star speed, rebuild your vf40 for 500 and get a two year warranty: http://6starspeed.com/reihivftusul.html Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Or Pure Turbos http://www.pureturbos.com/store/ Our local turbo rebuilder. 24 hour turn around for locals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphylee1983 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 With that budget stay stock. Too many people who should never be considering an aftermarket turbo are. For $1300 you can have a new OEM turbo, complete install kit, 12month/12000 mile no questions asked warranty on the turbo and install it in a matter of hours. Back on the road. No modding, no tuning, etc. Interesting. What would be a proper budget for parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsmith30132 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I just spent 4k for 100k maintenance parts, fuel upgrades, tune, and some supporting parts. In addition i still have to buy a turbo! One nice thing i was able to get everything i needed from Infamous so it was a one stop shop with great deals but things definitely add up. I could have gotten by a lot cheaper but I didn't want to half ass it. Spend some time reading this write up, very nicely done. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/turboi-wiki-twist-178684.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted March 13, 2014 Moderators Share Posted March 13, 2014 I just spent 4k for 100k maintenance parts, fuel upgrades, tune, and some supporting parts. In addition i still have to buy a turbo! One nice thing i was able to get everything i needed from Infamous so it was a one stop shop with great deals but things definitely add up. I could have gotten by a lot cheaper but I didn't want to half ass it. Spend some time reading this write up, very nicely done. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/turboi-wiki-twist-178684.html $4k...maintenance items...some other things? "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted March 13, 2014 I Donated Share Posted March 13, 2014 $4k...maintenance items...some other things? Yeah, I spent far less than that on my original turbo upgrade. The following are the parts I ended up with, including their approximate cost: BNR 16G -- $850 incl. shipping and CC fee IP&T oil line -- current price is $200 CNT catted DP -- $350 (originally went catless, but would recommend catted) FMS UP -- $85 BP TMIC mod -- $100 E-tune -- $175 Miscellaneous swap parts TOTAL: ~$1800-1900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrei Wolf Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) Or if you want to not run of out fuel $200 Wideband $1000 BNR16G and filtered oil ine $120 EBCS $300-500 Downpipe $430 Bosch V14 Injectors $150 DW65C FP $90 BP TMIC kit or AVO $800 $150 Forge BPV $200 E-Tune You're looking at about 2.5k-3.5k depending on what route you go. Edited March 13, 2014 by Schrei Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted March 13, 2014 I Donated Share Posted March 13, 2014 The benefits of fueling on a 16G with pump gas are negligible. They exist, but not worth the money IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted March 13, 2014 Moderators Share Posted March 13, 2014 You both have turbos on your list--he said he still has to buy a turbo. That's why i'm so confused. I'm guessing he at least has spark plugs, timing belt, and some fluids in there as well though. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted March 13, 2014 Moderators Share Posted March 13, 2014 The benefits of fueling on a 16G with pump gas are negligible. They exist, but not worth the money IMO. Quite a few people claim to max out or nearly max out stock injectors with a 16g. But yes, in terms of numbers I'm sure there's not that much more to be had. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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