Beanboy Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 So a handful of folks have had lower arm bushings fail on them. Anybody up for taking some photos of what the bushings on your LGT look like? Just curious as to how they age as the miles add up. Will snap a photo or two tonight. -B http://www.standardshift.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hifiandmtb Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Here's my torn bush: http://photos.all.id.au/ALBUMS/SJ_Whiteline_Control/IMG_6419.sized.jpg Believe it or not, we may be getting a solution to this - and it's not OEM or Perrin! I'll keep you all informed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panamajack Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Whiteline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hifiandmtb Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Close. A supplier to Whiteline is designing a replacement bush that gives better geometry control, increased caster & a degree of caster management (i.e. to ensure even left/right caster settings). Someone here in Aus is currently using their skunkwork-design part & raves about it. They just need to gear up for production & we're away. Personally, I can't wait. I've got uneven caster (car pulls slightly to the left) and would love more self-centering, increased dynamic camber & better steering feel. My suspension set-up is Bilstein B6 Sport/WL Control springs/WL 20mm adjustable RSB/WL front strut brace/WL steering rack bushes, standard 17" alloys & Falken ST-115 tyres. Could be better...much better...with optimised caster settings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opie Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 From the May Subaru of America Tech Tips: 2005~06my legacy Front lower control arm bushings Dealers have reported, and in some cases replaced, the Front Lower Control Arms for cracked bushings. Generally, replacement is not necessary. Even with cracks up to 15mm across the outside surface, and all the way through the bushing from one side to the other, the bushing performance is still 20 times the strength of specification. This type of bushing works with compressed rubber and when the control arm travels through its full stroke it stretches a small portion of the bushing and will exhibit a crack or split. This does not affect the performance of the bushing and will not continue to spread to the rest of the bushing. It does not cause body vibrations, noises, or braking issues. A Service Bulletin will be released outlining the above information. See image to the right. http://www.thel7.com/images/tips.bmp Note: B9 Tribeca models have a similar design Control Arm Bushing. However, the material and characteristics of the bushing material may be slightly different. The issue of cracking and its affects are being reviewed at this time. We will update this information for this model in a future issue of TechTIPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ur a bus Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 From the May Subaru of America Tech Tips: [/left] I was wondering when you were going to post this....... -- Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgt Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Bushing performance is still within spec even if cracked all the way through one side? seems kind of suspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccorry Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Good info guys... thanks for sharing. My bushings look just like hifiandmtb's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel0mac Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Bushing performance is still within spec even if cracked all the way through one side? seems kind of suspect ??Kind of suspect??? I'd say very suspect. Clearly, they want to minimize their warrantee replacements and with this language they are leaving it up to the dealer's discretion. That is disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 ehhh....I need to check mine. in for good info fro Oz however....keepus updated please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagcars26 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 I just inspected mine yesterday when I installed the Cusco lower arm brace,,no probs so far,6800 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeracer Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Good info guys... thanks for sharing. My bushings look just like hifiandmtb's. +1 for mines too at 36K... "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeracer Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 any new info on this problem? "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I forgot if this bushing experiences 2 axis or 3 axis or movements.. if the unit split all the way across, in a 2-axis, it wouldnt matter, the material still functions as a solid, just so happens it's in two pieces.. if the bushing acts as 3-axis, (which it does look like from the tear), then it would be a problem as the broken piece will one day slip out when there's no longer a load pressing against it? That it could eventually vibrate and deteriorate out of the control arm? Of course, it is a pressed bushing, so it can stay in for a good while... Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuxtaGT Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 What bad behavior does the car have to make one wonder if the control arm bushing is torn? Noise? Clunk? Loose steering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeracer Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Good question. I would like to hear from people with unmodded suspensions who have noise or alignment issues do to the bushings. "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccorry Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 I don't notice any symptoms of my cracked bushings..... either stock.. or now with my H-tech springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeracer Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Interesting. I have been chasing a noise in the front right of my car. Right now I have Ksports. I was think that it might have something to do with it. "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuxtaGT Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 ^ Same boat with MR Coilovers, hence my interest. Still clunking away despite many hours of tightening bolts, scratching head, posting on here. Looks like I have another thing to go poke at and wonder about in my front suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgt_nube Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 I didn't find this thread before I posted about my torn bushings. My dealer is replacing the bushings under my extended warranty, but see my discussion of Subaru policy on the matter. Top of thread: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87499 My "conclusion" post: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1864618 A few photos of the LGT My current ride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmraman Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 My dealer had to replace the entire lower control arms on both sides. Stating that they do not just replace the bushings. Thank god it was under warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgt_nube Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 How many miles were on your car? My dealer had to replace the entire lower control arms on both sides. Stating that they do not just replace the bushings. Thank god it was under warranty. A few photos of the LGT My current ride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opie Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 My dealer had to replace the entire lower control arms on both sides. Stating that they do not just replace the bushings. Thank god it was under warranty. I'll bet Subaru will reject (not pay) that dealer's warranty claim. The bushings are available individually and press in very easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken S Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Good question. I would like to hear from people with unmodded suspensions who have noise or alignment issues do to the bushings. I was getting steering wheel vibrations, similar to an unbalanced tire/wheel, at highway speeds. Also, after replacing the bushings, I realized how much more firmer the steering was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownBoy Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 If my steering wheel feels really loose, could that be it? The bushing look torn, but I'm not sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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