Subaru annouces new boxer engine series

http://wot.motortrend.com/6687430/technology/subaru-unveils-more-powerful-and-efficient-third-gen-h-4-boxer-engine/index.html

 

This better end up in the Legacy.

yeah i'm kinda pissed but not really. i don't quite feel like a 2010 wrx owner.

Why would they even consider redoing the engine and not include direct injection? Direct injection is the future i won't buy another new car w/o it.

there was an interview about subaru and DI somewhere. basically, they said it won't be done until it gets cheaper. boxer engines aren't cheap and the addition of DI would make their cars unreachable for a portion of their market segment.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/23/subaru-debuts-third-generation-boxer-four-cylinder-engine/

 

No specs or anything so time will tell.

Why would they even consider redoing the engine and not include direct injection? Direct injection is the future i won't buy another new car w/o it.

 

R&D is too high on DI right now. They'll wait it out until the cost goes down. Can't say I blame them since Subaru is up like 40% in sales?

Oooohhh. Nice. I look forward to hearing more...

Merged! And put in the right forum.

http://wot.motortrend.com/6687430/technology/subaru-unveils-more-powerful-and-efficient-third-gen-h-4-boxer-engine/index.html

 

According to this, the spec are virtually identical compared to the previous generation, with the exception of improved gas mileage.

 

Pretty bland considering the improvements coming from Ford and Chevy.

Why would they even consider redoing the engine and not include direct injection?

 

 

exactly what i was wondering.

 

why redesign an engine and not take advantage of current technological advances? can't afford the R&D? it's going to cost your company more when your cars stop selling because they're lagging so far behind that being a niche vehicle isn't going to help. couple that with domestic AWD offerings, and well... you know the rest.

there was an interview about subaru and DI somewhere. basically, they said it won't be done until it gets cheaper. boxer engines aren't cheap and the addition of DI would make their cars unreachable for a portion of their market segment.

 

I'm not buying that reason, the gas milage/power increase/emissions alone would justify the cost.

DI is the future, to not include it is crazy from a business standpoint.

They should look into pushrods.

 

That engine looks like a non-event.

I also heard they won't be recommending Mobil1 for the updated engine. They might as well just give up.

That engine looks like a non-event.

 

No kidding, what a let down i'll be looking at the new Regal now for sure.

isn't an AWD/Turbo(Twinscroll) Sonata on the way?

 

 

.....edit: almost forgot ^^^ that part.

I wonder what type of oil they will recommend for this totally new engine?

Seriously? No direct injection?

 

What decade are they living in? Move FORWARD, not backward, Subaru.

Well backward is a little mean, lets just say sideways so everyone else is going to pass them lol.

 

I wonder if we can swap the new engines into the old cars without major mods.... I mean come on, 10% fuel economy is 10%, it means saving $30 on a $300 monthly fuel bill.

No kidding, what a let down i'll be looking at the new Regal now for sure.

 

The Regal is hot for sure, but it will be underpowed compared to the Sonata. The only plus for the buick will be the MT. I think the turbo Sonata is a AT only.

Buick GS.......

Buick GS.......

 

With a price north of $35,000 (if they include the Brembos and Recaros that were on the concept car)

With a price north of $35,000 (if they include the Brembos and Recaros that were on the concept car)

 

Yeah, and too bad it is a LOT smaller than the 2010-11 LGT. I saw the news release on the Regal GS and was VERY, VERY interested....until I actually saw how big it was at the car show last spring.....not interested anymore. Too small for our needs. Cool car though.

The Regal is hot for sure, but it will be underpowed compared to the Sonata. The only plus for the buick will be the MT. I think the turbo Sonata is a AT only.

 

 

it's AT only, but 6spd with paddles. so... not completely gay

Seriously? No direct injection?

 

What decade are they living in? Move FORWARD, not backward, Subaru.

 

Direct injection has its problems. Namely excessive deposits on the intake valves.

Here is another blurb on the new motor:

 

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/subaru-reinvents-the-boxer-engine-minus-the-direct-injection/#more-366670