HAMMER DOWN Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Now, Now, Now, Mike you also have the big oil filter system. You forgot that disclaimer... :rolleyes:Not for the 1st 73k & the G/F's 05 WRX avg. 12k OCI with Amsoil SSO & Ea15k13 signal spin-on filter ( stock Location). Over 150k & no shaft play in the turbo. Mike Mileage:331487 Retired/Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplosivo1 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) Other than a fuel pump and injectors, what other supporting mods would be necessary to run an 18g? Would it be the same for a 20g? Edited May 13, 2013 by Xplosivo1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMER DOWN Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Other than a fuel pump and injectors, what other supporting mods would be necessary to run an 18g? Would it be the same for a 20g? Search is your friend. Right at the top of this Forum in the STICKYS. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/turboi-wiki-twist-178684.html See post 2 Mike Mileage:331487 Retired/Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplosivo1 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Search is your friend. Right at the top of this Forum in the STICKYS. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/turboi-wiki-twist-178684.html See post 2 Mike ahh...thank you, haven't gotten that far down the list yet. I'm trying to go in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathwagonx Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 hooray my 16g showed up yesterday, can't wait to install it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acumenhokie Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 20G makes me smile. http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=151962&d=1368820172 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiteOwl561 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 So I've got the BNR 16G installed with an Invidia Up, Down, and CBE. We had some fitment issues with stock TMIC, but got it working, although it was not 100% perfect. Fast forward a 150 miles and the stock TMIC blew a corner, so after reading on here and others, I ordered the AVO TMIC, as it was supposed to have good fitment. Problem is that the bolts are now a 1/2 inch off. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadvw Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 So I've got the BNR 16G installed with an Invidia Up, Down, and CBE. We had some fitment issues with stock TMIC, but got it working, although it was not 100% perfect. Fast forward a 150 miles and the stock TMIC blew a corner, so after reading on here and others, I ordered the AVO TMIC, as it was supposed to have good fitment. Problem is that the bolts are now a 1/2 inch off. Any suggestions? Wow, that's an expensive fix! Did you consider the "bulletproof" mod instead? Less than $100, and fit with stock TMIC (as you found out) is slightly better than aftermarket.. Can you return your AVO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiteOwl561 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 My stocker was gone and I was hoping the fitment wouldn't be an issue. I needed it done ASAP and I got the AVO next day. Not to worried about the cost, but that's only if it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Wow, that's an expensive fix! Did you consider the "bulletproof" mod instead? Less than $100, and fit with stock TMIC (as you found out) is slightly better than aftermarket.. Can you return your AVO? The AVO fits more like OEM than any other TMIC we have ever test fit. I have had issues with TMIC fitment on all new BNR turbo housings we have installed. Note he stated the OEM did not fit well with the turbo either. "Bullet proofing" an OEM TMIC is not something I ever recommend. Doing so with an after market turbo is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted June 1, 2013 I Donated Share Posted June 1, 2013 "Bullet proofing" an OEM TMIC is not something I ever recommend. Doing so with an after market turbo is laughable. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMER DOWN Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 "Bullet proofing" an OEM TMIC is not something I ever recommend. Doing so with an after market turbo is laughable. Why? Here we go again:spin:. This subject is almost as bad as, "What's the best oil to use?".:spin: Mileage:331487 Retired/Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadvw Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Here we go again:spin:. This subject is almost as bad as, "What's the best oil to use?".:spin: Has this been discussed before? If so, I missed it.. I've run a BP OEM TMIC for 30K+ miles with a bnr16g.. No issues to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBNR Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Hi everyone! Hope you guys are making the power you want to make with my products! Bryan@BNR 205 640 1193 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBNR Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) I hear Cobb Plano and AWDTuning are both recommending customers avoid BNR turbos due to high failure rates. I wish they would post some data about their experience instead of spreading rumor via the interwebs. There is a huge issue with oiling on the LGT's and the Outback XT's. If the issues aren't resolved, no matter what turbo you put on the car it will fail. But we all know that. I don't see high failure rates. The very few I have seen have all been oil starved. Now that I think about it Mike, you know I push IP&T tunes and oil lines. I would put money on it that they are not pushing my products because I tell the customers about your e tunes and that takes business away from them lol. Bryan@BNR 205 640 1193 Edited June 3, 2013 by Bryan@BNR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 ^^ Sounds like par for the course where Cobb is concerned. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted June 3, 2013 I Donated Share Posted June 3, 2013 Has this been discussed before? If so, I missed it.. This. I am aware that I am leaving some power on the table, but I don't see why using a BP TMIC with a mild Stage 3 is "laughable." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeylord Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I went with a used AVO for my 16g build, but mainly for reliability's sake. Had the BP mod been around at the time I would've at least seriously considered it. Anyway, I've got ~10K on my 16g so far, still loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted June 3, 2013 Moderators Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) Using a reinforced stock intercooler at stage 3 is the same as so many other bolt on mods--it's weighing price versus rate of return (other examples include new injectors, EBCS, aftermarket BOV / BPV, and others I'm sure). No one is going to advocate that the same exact setup save for intercooler choice will make the same exact power, the question is how much more does an AVO intercooler get you ~$700? For many running "mild" stage 3 setups (i.e. 16g or vf52), the rate of return on the investment may not be there. I never push anyone one direction or the other regarding the use of the BP mod. I provide information and the ability to buy the kit in a complete, ready-to-install package. That's it. I routinely tell people that using an aftermarket intercooler will obviously provide the same reliability as a BP'ed stock unit and most likely a slight increase in performance as well. Again, the question is whether the cost is worth it for every single owner out there and the answer is sometimes yes and sometimes no. I will say that I'm not a proponent of any of the aftermarket "knock-off" units. Don't kill yourself with FMS/etc. stuff that is just going to cause fitment issues. Stock with stock or reinforced stock or go after a legitimate upgrade, i.e. Perrin, AVO, Process West. Edited June 3, 2013 by BarManBean "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiteOwl561 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I have had issues with TMIC fitment on all new BNR turbo housings we have installed. Bryan@BNR Any comment or assistance you can provide? My mechanic/installer is having a heck of a time getting the TMIC mated up with my brand new AVO TMIC and BNR 16G Turbo with the newer BNR Turbo housing. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbrjason Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Bryan@BNR Any comment or assistance you can provide? My mechanic/installer is having a heck of a time getting the TMIC mated up with my brand new AVO TMIC and BNR 16G Turbo with the newer BNR Turbo housing. Thanks I believe you can just loosen the collar on the turbo, bolt up the TMIC and then tighten the turbo collar back down. Tightening the TMIC down with the collar loosened should slightly clock the turbo into place. I don't have first hand experience with that but read it elsewhere in this forum while preparing to do my own 16g install. I didn't have any issues though and I'm running the IPR TMIC (Perrin knockoff). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBNR Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Loosen the v band, tighten the intercooler then tighten up the v band. The vf40 compressor housings are not pinned so it is hard to perfectly set the compressor housings. I don't know why they aren't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiteOwl561 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Thank you. I have provided this info to my installer. Hopefully this will eliminate the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyT Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 As for aftermarket TMICs, what to you folks think of the Process West TMIC? The guys at AZP recommended this one if I was to upgrade the turbo and other bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Not a bad TMIC. No LGT splitter anymore. For the price you can get a very nice FMIC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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