rexster Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 So i took the 225/45/17 eagle F1s off my stock rims and put them on some Volk LE37K rims that I bought used from another GT owner (thanks Ken!). I am in awe as to how much of a difference it made. The volks weigh around 14.5 lbs. With the stock rims any little bump would cause the car to over-react and you could feel the wheels losing contact. When you're going fast it's very scary what happens when you hit a bump. But with the volks, the car just floats over the bumps. The stock suspension can actually keep the wheel on the road now. I wonder why subaru put such horribly inadequate shocks and springs on the car. They're next to be replaced, but now i'm not in as much of a rush... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestir Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Thanks for the report. This is definitely something to consider and surely makes going to 18" rims a more difficult (and expensive) proposition. I totally agree with the shocks/springs comment. Having introduced Spec.B's and being in rallying for so long, it's clearly obvious to Subaru that good dampers are very important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 What diff did you notice in accelaration and braking performance? Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Henkle Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 What diff did you notice in accelaration and braking performance? How about hard cornering too? Thanks for the info; I've been trying to find that out myself too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexster Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 i haven't noticed as much of a difference in braking and accelleration. the car does seem to pull a little better off the line, but i don't care to try and accurately measure it, and it could just be psychological. as far as braking goes, i have no idea, i haven't gotten on them that hard. cornering is definitely better than before (the same tires on the stock rims). part of it is probably due to a more square sidewall, but it's also because the wheels stay planted on the road over bumpy surfaces. i'll try and post some pics this weekend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexster Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 here you go... http://legacygt.com/forums/legacy-photos/41030-silver-gt-wagon-volks.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Looks great:) May have to drop down to 17's in the future to save a little more weight. I have lightweight 18's but they are still 19.1lbs Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Superleggeras FTW ! 18" x 8" @ 17.6 lbs Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 heheh....I'm saving 17lbs per corner with my newest set of BBS Yes, for the MINI Think I'll notice the difference? Stock = 48lbs for wheels and tires (runflats). New wheels - 10.4lbs - new tires - 20.5lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 heheh....I'm saving 19lbs per corner with my newest set of BBS Yes, for the MINI Think I'll notice the difference? OMG, what comes as standard ? Solid steel ? Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzyss Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Run Flat Tires are heavy. I guess he replaces RFTs with regular tires + lighter wheels. Krzys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberwagon Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Superleggeras FTW ! 18" x 8" @ 17.6 lbs ++1:icon_mrgr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdw Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I have 17" OZ SL's w/Pilot Exalto PE2's for the summer and I agree. I can definitely notice a difference compared to my stock wheels with Nokian WR's. I'm getting either the Koni or Tokico struts when more reviews are out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexster Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 heheh....I'm saving 17lbs per corner with my newest set of BBS Yes, for the MINI Think I'll notice the difference? Stock = 48lbs for wheels and tires (runflats). New wheels - 10.4lbs - new tires - 20.5lbs. wow! 48 lbs is a lot of wheel for such a tiny motor. it's going to feel like a brand new car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 there's definitely a tremendous difference as I autoxed this weekend with the GT. Here are the two different rims I ran, but EVERYTHING else is practically the same except for the course layout: 1) 12.5 lbs SSR Comps & 225/45/17 Falken Azenis RT-615s2) 17.5+ lbs Buddy Club PII+ & 225/45/17 Falken Azenis RT-615s Let's just put it this way, I drove well in both cases.. weather being a highg 85F. The acceleration is slow and the braking is surely different, the handling is more understeerish with the Buddy Clubs as I had to dial in the rear Zeals to full stiff to make the rear end come around for me, otherwise, it would just keep understeering. Magnetic1 missed out my DRFT action move around the showcase turn on Sunday.. I'll look up a pic for it later, but as far as the weight goes, 5 lbs and up is a huge difference.. afterall, we are talking about nearly a 33% weight loss in the rim alone, or at least 13% worth of weight lost overall (42 lbs/48 lbs). Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Superleggeras FTW ! 18" x 8" @ 17.6 lbs nah, SSR Comps FTW! 18"x8.5" @ 14.8-15.5 lbs. Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillboy Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 OMG, what comes as standard ? Solid steel ? Lead. It is still ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Think I'll be looking @ SSR's come first of the year, do they come in Bronze though? Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexster Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 The acceleration is slow and the braking is surely different, the handling is more understeerish with the Buddy Clubs as I had to dial in the rear Zeals to full stiff to make the rear end come around for me, otherwise, it would just keep understeering. Thats the other thing that I noticed. I can't explain it, but my otherwise stock car has a lot less understeer as a result of the lighter wheels. Never would have guessed it, but it's true. it's still all understeer if you go into a corner to hot, but on throttle through a corner and coming out there's more oversteer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Think I'll be looking @ SSR's come first of the year, do they come in Bronze though? the new color is the dark gunmetal and bronze.. look at Tirerack or here: SSR»•iˆê——b»•iЉîbTANABE Gun Metallic: http://202.164.225.248/lineup/ssr/typec_rs/img_frame/wheel02.jpg Bronze: http://202.164.225.248/lineup/ssr/typec_rs/img_frame/wheel01.jpg the new SSR MS-1: http://202.164.225.248/lineup/ssr/ms1/img_frame/wheel03.jpg http://202.164.225.248/lineup/ssr/ms1/img_frame/wheel01.jpg Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Hmmmmmmm..... Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 ah, I found something that will help show the difference in what weight can do on JUST the difference in rims.. in 2005, I ran with SSRs Comps in 17x7.5 with 225/45/17 Falken Azenis RT-615s.. compared to this one event that I ran with some 17x7.5 Buddy Club P2s and the same size 225/45/17 Falken Azenis RT-615s (weighing 5+ lbs more overall), you can see the difference in comparison to the average times and such..: STU (using Buddy Club P2s, 18 lbs rims) http://solo.wdcr-scca.org/results/20060813.php STU (using SSR Comps, 12.5 lbs rims) http://solo.wdcr-scca.org/results/20050320.php (came very close to beating Mike Neary) http://solo.wdcr-scca.org/results/20050417.php http://solo.wdcr-scca.org/results/20050507.php http://solo.wdcr-scca.org/results/20050612.php http://solo.wdcr-scca.org/results/20050710.php http://solo.wdcr-scca.org/results/20050730.php http://solo.wdcr-scca.org/results/20050814.php http://solo.wdcr-scca.org/results/20050904.php http://solo.wdcr-scca.org/results/20051009.php all the results I have in the WDCRegion: http://solo.wdcr-scca.org/results/ Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zildjiank Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 nah, SSR Comps FTW! 18"x8.5" @ 14.8-15.5 lbs. That's me baby...18X8 under 15lbs... However, better watch them bumps in teh road...found a nice little bend in the rim the other day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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