lee07 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Getting tuned this weekend for e85, so excited. I can now see and feel if there is really a big difference in hp/tq from just using e85 I know it won't be e85 now but there should still be a bump in power What do you think whp will be? ~285 now with vf52, maybe 315 or so? Only tuning for e85 because I'm doing the tgv delete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04caliwrx Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 E85 is great stuff man I have a 450 plus who sti that's been running it for years!! You should see about 320whp and close to 400 torque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 With a lot of mods I saw over 350/420+ on a vf39 @ 21psi with a lot of mods @ sea level on e85 and 850 injectors (reasonably high up in the duty cycle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGT For ME Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I had a v52 and 850's on e85 at Mile high and was around 315/350 on a airboy so take that for what its worth. But comparing airboy on gas to airboy on e85 I saw about 30/50 in gains, your going to love the extra tq for a DD, very fun enjoy and let us know the results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 A mile lower I saw gains of ~40/60. You are going to love the extra tq for a DD. Straight up street thuggery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldsubycz Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 With my AVO380 I put down 280whp on 91pump when I switched to e85 (e78 actual) put down 335whp. Stock, my car put down 185whp all numbers done on the same dyno and tuner. At the Holiday and Kwik Trip stations around town they are all at e69 now according to my ethanol gauge. Had my car tuned by Shane at DB Performance in Rogers, he really knows his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 ^Heartbreaker of a dyno but you can't argue with 80% more power than stock!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldsubycz Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Getting tuned this weekend for e85, so excited. I can now see and feel if there is really a big difference in hp/tq from just using e85 I know it won't be e85 now but there should still be a bump in power What do you think whp will be? ~285 now with vf52, maybe 315 or so? Only tuning for e85 because I'm doing the tgv delete You will love e85! Turned my car almost back to a stage 2 feel, but holy cow it packs A LOT more punch! Also, e85 + 15 degrees F = So much fun!! (a little tough starting though, but it started ) Let us know what you think when done. ^Heartbreaker of a dyno but you can't argue with 80% more power than stock!!! Tell me about it! I was originally hoping for over 300whp on 91. Didn't really understand "heartbreaker" until I went through it, but then I drove the car and all that went away I have a dyno plot of the stock tune vs. the e85 and it looks crazy because the stock lines are so close to the bottom of the graph. I kind of giggle when I look at the plot and think about driving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Lesson for the day: if you run a heartbreaker of a dyno, make sure to include baseline runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldsubycz Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 This is the fun I was talking about with e85. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I'll see your "stock vs" and post a stage 3 ca91oct vs same on e85. The grey lines are the 91oct tune. Blue/red for e85. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee07 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 Got it tuned and dynoed today and all were around the 320-330+whp range and around 330+wtq in 4th gear. Not sure if 3rd gear would of been higher or not. It just need's a little bit more tuning on Monday and it "should" be done. It's Running lean after 5k-6k but he let me drive it and it's great. 1st gear made the back end come out and slip, it felt like a rear wheel drive car. Amazing, Can't wait to see the final numbers but it should be around the range of 320whp/330wtq Never took my car to redline in 4th gear but now I know it goes to about 125-130mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wurkenman Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Who is tuning? If you woke up today, you have another chance to do it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee07 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 You may or may not know him but the shop is called devoted auto works in white bear lake on 61 and cedar. Great guy. He Doesn't release your car until he is happy with it, he's not happy with it, so another day tuning it monday, that's fine as i have another ride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wurkenman Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Just asking, because it is VERY rare to tune in 4th. I have my tuning done by Nuke at NF performance. I know it's a blast to drive as I'm at 321 on 92 octane (dyno numbers from RS Motors in Burnsville). I have no desire to run E85 because it is not always available out on the road and the mileage sucks. If you woke up today, you have another chance to do it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee07 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 I'll be going down to rs after it's done to see what it put down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldsubycz Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Congrates on the tune! E85 is a blast! Once the tune is done, enjoy! Just got back with the kids from a 220 mile "adventure" today on I94 and Hwy 29 in Wisconsin through the snow and used e85 the whole way! A little planning with long trips and finding e85 is pretty easy. It's Running lean after 5k-6k but he let me drive it and it's great. I had this exact leaning out problem exactly where you are having it. Read the below post as it should answer all your "leaning" out questions: Page 3 Post #42 http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/fuel-pump-control-module-143860p3.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sashadg1 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Okay, question my closest E85 station is about 15 miles away. If I tune for E85 and find myself not close enough to a station can you run 91 and just stay off boost until filled up with E85 or will it simply blow right away at normal operating speeds? I am running a VF52 with stage 4 build but running 91. Seems I am leaving a lot power on the table by not switching over. Scott Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sashadg1 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 lee07, why the TGV delete with the VF52, could set you up for drive-ability issues, rough idle, stalling, CEL... Just something to think about. It is also a tone of work for very, very little benefit (1 to 2 hp) unless running 20g or larger turbo. I would spend my money on other things for power besides that unless you already did it. Did you consider just removing the flaps, leaving the rods, motors, sensors in place? That is what I had done because of a bad motor/sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee07 Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 Kept having the CEL coming on once every month so I decided to just get rid of it. It wasn't for power, i did it just to get the annoying cel gone as it was always the same code's that were popping up(it was either stuck closed/open) Not sure about driving-ability issues with it though, i think it'll be fine but we'll see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sashadg1 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Yah mine was locked closed when they first fired it up after being rebuilt. Decided to do the least amount of work to correct the issue, and that was it. Problem solved, Mike from Infamous also deleted CEL as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Okay, question my closest E85 station is about 15 miles away. If I tune for E85 and find myself not close enough to a station can you run 91 and just stay off boost until filled up with E85 or will it simply blow right away at normal operating speeds? Scott Scott Don't even think about it Scott Scott. You have a stage FOUR car that you are considering alternative fuel for. You should have a laptop or AP to check your car or swap tunes at that point. If that sounds like a hassle, e85 might not fit your lifestyle well. Yah mine was locked closed when they first fired it up after being rebuilt. Decided to do the least amount of work to correct the issue, and that was it. Problem solved, Mike from Infamous also deleted CEL as well. I'm looking at doing the same thing to the OBXT. At first it threw a code every few months. Now every month or so. When it becomes every week for those TGV's, it's gonna be time for me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sashadg1 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I have both lap top and AP. Working now on getting Romraider up and running. Major issues downloading on vista for some reason. Meeting up with ITSME hopefully this weekend to do some logging and get me up and running with my laptop. I may use my AP though for ease of use than my laptop. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 What day are you meeting up with Bryan? I have been meaning to go see him for most of the last year. IF you are planning to keep the AP I'd just use that to swap tunes just to avoid an operating system. Only thing wrong with a laptop? Windows. Still need it for RR and LV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sashadg1 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I will call him later this week but we talked about Saturday afternoon or Sunday. Then again I might be going pout of town this weekend still do not know yet. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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