nadracer Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) I got a deal on one of these and installed it the a couple nights ago. This is not the same model as for the 2.5L though it looks almost identical. The 2.5 uses the TR-4303P version. The 3.6R uses the TR-4304P version. I picked it up from one of our vendors Emnotek. So here is my review on whats in the box. The airbox portion that this intake replaces is made of steel. It's simple folded construction similar to what you'd find on a comparable K&N typhoon intake. The intake tubing is also steel not chromed plastic. With silicon couplings overall this product is on par with K&N intakes. This is what is being replaced. http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p165/danbob_bucket/IMG_4397_zps641bff09.jpg The install would be smooth except that for the replacement air box piece to fit perfectly against the OEM, the OEM needs a little filing to fit. The to tab slots on the front of the stock OEM air box need to be widened slightly so the Takeda will fit flush. http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p165/danbob_bucket/IMG_4404_zps2c40f25c.jpg Takeda airbox installed. The tube sitting on the radiator is the charge pipe to the throttlebody. http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p165/danbob_bucket/IMG_4399_zps10a6f18d.jpg During my initial test 15F was probably not the best time for the ECU to learn a new trick. After a few days the ECU is compensating well and the throttle is smoothing out. So far I like it since it's still quiet at low rpms. Ta-da - without engine cover http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p165/danbob_bucket/IMG_4408_zpsb06d425c.jpg With engine cover http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p165/danbob_bucket/IMG_4410_zpsd46f38bc.jpg http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p165/danbob_bucket/IMG_4406_zps90f21e0f.jpg Edited December 26, 2013 by nadracer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger357 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Pictures of the completed install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHUCKmfnNORRIS Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadracer Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) .... Edited December 26, 2013 by nadracer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidal Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Excuse my ignorance but what is this buying you? The current intake seems pretty sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutchard Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Any cool new sounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadracer Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Not sure what you mean by buying me? I bought it. The stock intake isn't very direct by any stretch for N/A. Excuse my ignorance but what is this buying you? The current intake seems pretty sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadracer Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Sounds quiet for normal driving. Any cool new sounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perscitus Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Thanks for the install photos. Great idea. How do you like it so far? Throttle response? Sound at WOT, MAF location with this setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHUCKmfnNORRIS Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 ^i was just going to ask about throttle response, the factory response is slow when compaired to my wrangler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutchard Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Sounds quiet for normal driving. what about not-so-normal driving? does she growl when you put the spurs to her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadracer Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 The throttle response is better. The sound is nice too at wide open throttle. I can hear the induction noise from the new intake tube. It sounds mean. The low end torque doesn't feel affected at all. I do still have the jug under the air box. Since the overall design is changed I doubt it does anything anymore but in my experience removing the jug on an N/A car reduces the low end torque. I'd remove it but then there'd be a useless hole. Intakes on the other hand free up hp in the upper rpm but low end torque is usually sacrificed. There doesn't feel like there is any noticeable loss. Feel is free flowing and eager to rev. Takeda like most CAI developers love to push the top end hp. Who on earth drives like that? I highlighted the root issue on the dyno Takeda shows where there is a loss. http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p165/danbob_bucket/TR-4304PI1600_highlight_zps045c1c05.jpg So there is about 200rpms around high 2k to 3k where there is a loss. Throughout there are small bumps in power freed up from the increased flow. My sensitive heiny dyno didn't feel a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidal Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) Not sure what you mean by buying me? I bought it. The stock intake isn't very direct by any stretch for N/A. I was asking what you were gaining from the mod. Thanks I read your dyno post. Edited December 27, 2013 by Tidal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realrift Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 So there is about 200rpms around high 2k to 3k where there is a loss. Throughout there are small bumps in power freed up from the increased flow. My sensitive heiny dyno didn't feel a loss. A retune would fix this hole. Wait to retune if you are planning more mods. If you are not, then may be worth it anyway. Can't comment on 3.6 but it made a nice difference to 3.0R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Thanks for taking the plunge. Oakies (to quote my daughter)...you made nearly 9 friggin' whp with just that tube. I made only 6 with hks funnel and AEM panel filter and then "squeezed" another 3 with my exhaust (although I made ~15whp and 15wtq with both mods at 5250 rpm). I got better mid range than top end. You got better top end. I'll be ordering this and adding it to my intake. I guess I will be due for another friggin' dyno run. I'm going to ask something stupid right now. Did you do everything the same way for both runs? "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) And, another stupid question: Do the 2010 and the 2013 share the same intake? Before I pull the trigger.... EDIT: Already pulled trigger. Please let me know, (anyone) ASAP, if the 2013 poses an issue. Cheers! Edited December 27, 2013 by fredrik94087 "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syndicate Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 ...it's nice that you 3.6R guys are finding more mods, I'm wondering if this will fit a Tribeca? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItalianLegacy Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Time to whip out the credit card! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHUCKmfnNORRIS Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 ...it's nice that you 3.6R guys are finding more mods, I'm wondering if this will fit a Tribeca? what about us 2.5i drivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstg8r Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Time to whip out the credit card! You, Perscitus and I may have to have a get-together for an install day for this if I get one too. Nadracer, how easy is air filter removal for cleaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perscitus Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 This ^. I think I might just get one. Seems fairly easy to install, still works with HKS funnel and stock inlet, plus can by hydro transfer painted if anyone wants a stainless steel/alumina or carbon fiber look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Okay so just leave the San Jose guy on his own...the odd man out...the fifth er fourth wheel. I am curious to see the dyno after this change. As for the 2.5 guys you have a brand new intake by Injen I believe. "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstg8r Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 plus can by hydro transfer painted if anyone wants a stainless steel/alumina or carbon fiber look. more info please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 How about a jet hot coating????? "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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