ECP Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I was looking at my new Leggy today and realized that the front wheel gap is significantly greater than the rear. I asked my buddy who is the previous owner and he says that it is normal for legacy Gts. I know both previous owners, and while the car has Bilsteins, they tell me the springs are stock. I had an NA Leggy before this and it didn't have this gap so I want your opinion. Does this look right to you? http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b128/chase1126/car/side%202.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b128/chase1126/car/Side.jpg Summer tires last summer: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b128/chase1126/car/20140717_195421.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b128/chase1126/car/shock.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b128/chase1126/car/spring.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Yes in general, the 4th gens front end do sit higher than the rears. Even after I lowered my car on H-Tech springs, it still sits that way with the rear lower than the front. Some of the vendors on here sell spacers for the rear to help raise the back end up to match the front. Otherwise, some of the other lowering spring out there have made the corrections to spring height and makes the car more level. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZZMAN Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 It looks a bit high to me. Measurement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Mine sits pretty even on stock suspension. It looks about 1-2" too tall up front. Maybe the rears are saggy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gex Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 The reason it sits higher is because the Bilsteins require the spec B top hats which are a 1/2" higher then normal LGT top hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECP Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 The reason it sits higher is because the Bilsteins require the spec B top hats which are a 1/2" higher then normal LGT top hats. I was reading on this after seeing your quote. Threads are saying that these top hats raise the front end because the Spec B uses shorter front springs. I'm texting the PO now to see if he used the right top hats. Maybe not having the proper shorter springs are the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECP Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 The reason it sits higher is because the Bilsteins require the spec B top hats which are a 1/2" higher then normal LGT top hats. The PO doesn't remember, this was done almost 10 years ago. From pictures these look like the LGT top hats, can you confirm? http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b128/chase1126/car/tophats.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECP Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 Are new springs the answer? Or non-spec B struts? I really like the Bilstein brand, it would be a shame to dump them. But handling is my #1 priority. This car has an incredible amount of mods to to stiffen the chassis and huge swaybars. I wouldn't even care if the front was meant to sit higher if it wasn't throwing off the natural weight balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 The PO doesn't remember, this was done almost 10 years ago. From pictures these look like the LGT top hats, can you confirm? http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b128/chase1126/car/tophats.jpg I just checked both my Legacy's, the Spec B is like the one in your picture. My 05 Wagon's hats stick up about 3/4". Here's the wagon, http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x40/92Si/DSCN7058_zpsdclzvyn3.jpg Here's the Spec B, http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x40/92Si/DSCN7059_zpscxupsvhd.jpg 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anti Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Yes, you have specB/JDM top has. That's why they're nearly flush with the top of the cut outs, instead of being 3/4" higher. Also the Bilstein's shaft is too large for the bearing in the regular top hats. The springs should of been changed when the shocks were put on. You can get a set of STI pinks or Swift springs for this setup. Are your shocks still in okay shape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECP Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 I just checked both my Legacy's, the Spec B is like the one in your picture. My 05 Wagon's hats stick up about 3/4". Here's the wagon, Here's the Spec B, Thank you! You are amazing! Yes, you have specB/JDM top has. That's why they're nearly flush with the top of the cut outs, instead of being 3/4" higher. Also the Bilstein's shaft is too large for the bearing in the regular top hats. The springs should of been changed when the shocks were put on. You can get a set of STI pinks or Swift springs for this setup. Are your shocks still in okay shape? The shocks are 7 years old but show no signs of failing... the car drives beautifully. Looks like I'm going to have to keep an eye open in the marketplace, STI Pinks for the GT are quite expensive! (I assume I'm looking for JDM STi Pinks for the GT and not the Spec B because people are saying the spec B springs are longer to account for the heavier tranny). And MT springs because I have an MT, right? Someone in another thread was saying to use AT springs, but that just doesn't seem right. Thank you so much for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 You could PM m sprank he's the one who offered us the Koni and Epic spring deal in the past. He would know what springs you need. http://www.infamousperformance.net 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigleben Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b128/chase1126/car/shock.jpg Is the strut rubbing the axle ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaasaiWarrior Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Maxima's had the same thing, it'll sit slightly higher in the front when they are a 5spd. The springs are made for auto trans and manuals, the auto is heavier so it'll even it out a bit. 08 Spec B, insta: @08_spec_b, 10 SH Forester insta: @shfozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetteman Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 OEM Spec B front springs will level things out. Tire Rack for example warns that Bilstein's plus the correct top hats will raise the front about an inch if used with stock Leggy springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickle Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Go with Swift Springs for the Bilsteins. I have Bilstein HD Struts, Spec B tophats, and Swift Springs and it's an amazing setup. It'll get rid of that monster truck look you have going on as well... http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/11/89b922b0d74b28d65f9d2255ebb1e4c8.jpg Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssbtech Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Go with Swift Springs for the Bilsteins. I have Bilstein HD Struts, Spec B tophats, and Swift Springs and it's an amazing setup. It'll get rid of that monster truck look you have going on as well... http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/11/89b922b0d74b28d65f9d2255ebb1e4c8.jpg Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk I'd like your impression on ride quality/comfort with the Swift springs on the HDs. I have the Spec B wagon pinks with the HDs on my Outback and the thing is quite harsh. There are a lot of generally neglected roads here (think uneven patch jobs, tree roots pushing up the pavement, etc...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickle Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I'd like your impression on ride quality/comfort with the Swift springs on the HDs. I have the Spec B wagon pinks with the HDs on my Outback and the thing is quite harsh. There are a lot of generally neglected roads here (think uneven patch jobs, tree roots pushing up the pavement, etc...) Luckily, here in TN, we have pretty good roads. The ride is stiff, but perfectly drivable for every day situations. Bumpy roads are usually not a problem, it's the big bumps that really suck. I really enjoy the setup. I've taken a 12 hour round trip in one go on these up to Ohio and back and didn't really have any pain in my back or anything like that. And the roads in Ohio SUCK. It's a good setup. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zangado1 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Just though I would post a picture of my 05 LGT on the factory shocks/struts. My car sits even all around.http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/zangado8/IMG_0954_zpsy6rlebr5.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zangado1 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I'd like your impression on ride quality/comfort with the Swift springs on the HDs. I have the Spec B wagon pinks with the HDs on my Outback and the thing is quite harsh. There are a lot of generally neglected roads here (think uneven patch jobs, tree roots pushing up the pavement, etc...) Are you fitted with 17" or 18" wheels in your photo's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snm95ls Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 OP, I have the stock springs from my 2006 Spec B. if you want an OEM ride height. It is a 5MT car, so the trans weight is a non-issue. I don't know if the 07-09 Spec B spring are different from the 06 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickle Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Are you fitted with 17" or 18" wheels in your photo's? If you're talking to me I'm on 18s Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex0856 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I have the same setup as you ECP. Bilstein HDs and stock springs. I have 3/4" spacers in the rear though and the back sags ever so slightly, but not nearly as bad as yours. http://i.imgur.com/mWdSBTQh.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian2.5GT Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 That looks high in the front to me dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickle Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I have the same setup as you ECP. Bilstein HDs and stock springs. I have 3/4" spacers in the rear though and the back sags ever so slightly, but not nearly as bad as yours. http://i.imgur.com/mWdSBTQh.jpg Yeah I've got a bit of ass sag lol http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/13/8116aca4a00342c4074fe9f0a8c9c210.jpg Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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