ScoobyGT15 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 So I am posting this before I spend way to much money. I went to Wicked Big Meet this weekend with a couple of friends. When I returned home that night my car started smoking and there was smoke pouring out of my right front wheel well. I could smell a lot of oil burning. I also had too put in like a half of a quart of oil right before I left that morning and I changed my oil 500 miles ago. Seems like a lot of oil missing to me. I put it up on the lift at my shop yesterday and the oil filter was covered in oil and so was my oil cooler. So I ordered an oil cooler. But after reading a few threads this morning I'm starting to think it can be something else above the oil cooler and the oil is just dripping down onto the oil cooler. Is there anywhere else that I could be leaking oil from? I also noticed that when the car started smoking the coolant tank for my turbo was very hot and the cap was too hot to touch. The radiator cap on the other hand was warm but not as warm as the turbo coolant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowsports Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Help me out here. You have an oil cooler strapped underneath the car? How is this getting dripped on? I know there is also a seal of some sort above the mounting surface where the filter spins on that can fail and cause a mess like you describe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I would replace the o-ring where the cooler meets the block. But they are not a known leak point. But I seem to recall one other person a few years back had one leak. You'll need a need 24mm socket to drop the oil cooler. Also check the rubber hoses for cracks and the coolant crossover tube for rust while your there. If you look about post 26 in this thread I posted pictures. The oil cooler may be there somewhere, can't view the pic's here at work. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/got-some-new-stuff-engine-r-r-184106.html Here, I'll save you the effort. http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x40/92Si/DSCN4734.jpg 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyGT15 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 The surface that the oil filter screws on to (the housing of the oil cooler) is covered in oil. I plan on replacing all the hoses that connect to the cooler while I have it all pulled apart. I also plan on pulling the turbo to make sure that there isnt being any oil passed into the turbo. I am worried that from the heat and the long drive that more damage may have been done then what I can see right now. Has anyone on here changed there oil cooler yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadTrainDriver Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Max Capacity called it...there is a large o ring between the block and the oil cooler. I'd replace it, the oil filter, and the rubber lines that go to the radiator(just to be safe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadTrainDriver Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 http://opposedforces.com/parts/legacy/us_b13/type_7/lubrication_system/oil_cooler_engine/illustration_1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyGT15 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 Alright. I am planning to do the work either tomorrow or Thursday night. The car is sitting on the lift for now. I will post up the details of the repair after I am done. I'm hoping its the o-ring because that would be a lot cheaper then the whole cooler. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadTrainDriver Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I have never heard of the oil itself leaking, fyi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyGT15 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 Oil leaking from the oil cooler? I had a few drips from overnight. And when I took the cover off the bottom of the engine it was covered in oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyGT15 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 And if it is the O-ring between the oil cooler and the block that doesn't explain why my the coolant reservoir for my turbo was as hot as it was. When I turned off the car you could hear the warm coolant sputtering underneath the cap. And when I look at the reservoir itself there is coolant marks down the side of it from a leak. Its possible that I have a blown turbo or a turbo that's going bad but I can still hear my turbo spoil. I just figured it was the oil cooler that wasn't working that was causing the turbo to get that hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Sorry to add to your pain, but if your have coolant issues...I'd be worried about a HG. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyGT15 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 Im not having overheating issues though. Its only the cap on the coolant reservoir for the turbo. My temp gauge is right where its supposed to be and it doesn't really rise. So I don't think its a HG problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 That's good. I just replace both the pressure caps last Fall before Winter. I figured they were 8+ y/o, cheap insurance. The rubber seals looked like crap on the old ones. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I would also check you valve over gaskets while its off and you have a good view. Dont put too much oil on the new orange oring between the oil cooler and the block because it will cause the ring to float and can get pinched and not seal properly. Also i agree with max that replacing the caps would be a good idea. -Rey AZP's First Private Track Event, June 19 at NJMP Thunderbolt $315 including Classroom and Mentor! http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/91072632.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/145749898/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/133406601.jpg http://www.whiteline.com.au/images/logos/perf1.jpg 11+ Years Maintaining, Modifying and Educating TriState Subaru Enthusiasts. Call directly as We carry almost every manufacturer now, so before you buy parts call us. Like us on Facebook! | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1 (2971) | T-1 Certified Amsoil Direct Jobber |AIM: AZP Installs "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadTrainDriver Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I meant the oil cooler itself leaking...never seen that. I have seen the gasket fail, which will cause oil to leak from between block and cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyGT15 Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 So I ended up replacing the entire oil cooler. I tried to see if I could replace just the O-ring on it but I couldn't find it anywhere. I even called Subaru and they said it all came as one thing and I couldn't get the O-ring alone. So I ended up just changing the oil cooler and all the hoses to it. It was fairly easy to replace. I let the car run for a while after swapping the part to make sure it didn't have any leaks and ran at a normal temp. Today was its first day back out. So far no smell of burning oil or burning coolant like i've had for a few months now. No leaks or fluid lose. The temp gauge is actually a little bit lower then normal. And you could tell when you got out of the car that it was running cooler. Also my coolant reservoir for my turbo is no where near as hot as it was before I replaced the oil cooler. So I think its safe to say that this oil cooler has needed to be changed for a while and it just finally blew. Thanks everyone for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Glad to hear you got this fixed. Good Job. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyGT15 Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 Same here. It's good to finally know its not your head gaskets gone bad and thats where your getting the coolant smell from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silen7guardian Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 I even called Subaru and they said it all came as one thing and I couldn't get the O-ring alone. False (at least, as of two years ago). http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/99-do-yourself-illustrated-guides/36964-diy-how-replace-oil-cooler-gasket-oil-filter-leak.html • Subaru Oil Cooler Gasket - Part Number: 21370KA001 ($10) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp233 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Yeah, they really screwed up..... the oil cooler o-ring is totally separate and very easy to replace. Scooby I'll take your old oil cooler if you're offering it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmat Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Does anyone know the part number for the crossover coolant pipe? I just discovered mine was pretty rusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmat Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Found it. Just for anyone that needs: oil cooler pipe: 21328AA011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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