slissner Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/13/video-volvo-vs-subaru-awd/#more-3029 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 volvo does use haldex if im not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacysteve68 Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 go subie!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Wow. Im impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMBIVALENCE Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 i'm sure many ppl may had seen this, but just want to bring it up as well. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oqyjwI-HMA&eurl]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oqyjwI-HMA&eurl[/ame]= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobo69 Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 1st linky no worky for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impulse Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 borken first link here too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 worked for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHLEG Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 I had an '02 XC70 and never had a problem with it like what was shown. It is a FWD drive car (95/5 split) until the front tires slip. As mentioned, it uses a electro-mechanical Haldex AWD system where the front tires need to slip quite a bit before the rears engage. I think that was the problem here. The fronts needed to slip more because the rears were doing nothing on that video. Wierd system, but that's the way Volvo designed it. It looks like the video was a set-up to let the Subaru win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 The fronts needed to slip more because the rears were doing nothing on that video. Wierd system, but that's the way Volvo designed it. It looks like the video was a set-up to let the Subaru win. Even so, what good is offering AWD if it cant climb a hill? I prefer a FWD dominance but not that much. Im happy with my 50/50. ANd this is the kinda thing that concerns me a bout my dad's 330xi. Has a 10/90 split or is it 30/70? I cant remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulvarizer Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Even so, what good is offering AWD if it cant climb a hill? I prefer a FWD dominance but not that much. Im happy with my 50/50. ANd this is the kinda thing that concerns me a bout my dad's 330xi. Has a 10/90 split or is it 30/70? I cant remember. First link was broken for me but I guess it is the old video where the Haldex fuse was obviously pulled. The front wheels just keep spinning and the rears never come on. The older haldex only let the fronts spin 1/7 of a turn, no way that's real. Edit: Got the video to work that is def BS. AT 1.35 mins you can see the fronts spinning away endlessly with no motion from the rear wheels. This is not haldex or any other form of awd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Got the video to work that is def BS. AT 1.35 mins you can see the fronts spinning away endlessly with no motion from the rear wheels. This is not haldex or any other form of awd. I dunno. Ill watch it again but Im pretty sure that they were twitching some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SLegacy99 Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Guess we're a little behind guys. Heres the Nasioc take on it. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92449 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Well its seems to me that everytime Nasioc is referenced the thread is from 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Pimp Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Well the XC70 didn't have Haldex until 2003 so that is the problem. That is a pre 2003 model with Volvo's 1st generation nuttos AWD system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KayGT Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 i dont see that as a true comparison of volvo vs subaru awd.....however subaru should always win in awd comparisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 New or old, I can't believe they had the nerve to even call that AWD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWD_Rules3830 Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 If this is were Ford plans to start on their AWD lineup ... they have a long way to go. I love my car ... basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 You actually don't even need to pull the fuse to disable the Haldex AWD system. Just pull the e-brake one notch and the center diff becomes an open diff. Very handy when you need to make tight turns with the e-brake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algol Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 So are the new volvos any better? I mean do we really know... they could suck just as much then as they do now. Someone needs to do that AWD test over again with newer models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G. Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Not scientific, but in last year's only big snowstorm I was plowing with my bumper, yet never slipped even a little. I stopped to check on about 3 stuck SUVs on secondary roads, and passed at least a dozen obvious spinout on the highway, the majority of which were AWD trucks, SUVs and AWD European Sports Wagons. I believe there's AWD and there's AWD, if you know what I mean. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erito Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 well, everybody who has driven both cars will stick to the Subaru Any more links to post? The german link didn't work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincedog3 Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 very interesting the fifth gear vid. Volvos are neat cars, but they just seem to have gotten stupid expensive and lost their cool rally heritage. In the beginning, Volvos were like the swedish Subarus of the day. Saab was the same way too. Saabs and Volvos have been ruined by the GM and Ford idiots. Sometimes money can't buy you excellence all the time. For your car audio/video needs:D Audio Crafters IS it. In Pasadena Ca. Arthur rules. www.audio-crafters.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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