laz Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 I was able to meet bluechipbmw this past weekend. He showed me his excellent iON's with 18's P1 setup and I showed him my Xtec 5K premium HID's. We were able to find an empty lot to get some pics and note the differences. Here they are: Stock on left, HID on right (his car is lowered almost 2"): http://deexboy.com/albums/album28/IMG_5014.sized.jpg Stock: http://deexboy.com/albums/album28/IMG_5015.sized.jpg HID: http://deexboy.com/albums/album28/IMG_5017.sized.jpg --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laz Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 I also bought the Nokya yellow fog bulbs: http://deexboy.com/albums/album28/IMG_5018.sized.jpg http://deexboy.com/albums/album28/IMG_5019.jpg http://deexboy.com/albums/album28/IMG_5020.jpg http://deexboy.com/albums/album28/IMG_5021.sized.jpg http://deexboy.com/albums/album28/IMG_5022.sized.jpg --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laz Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 A couple of more pics me of me driving: http://deexboy.com/albums/album28/IMG_5034.sized.jpg http://deexboy.com/albums/album28/IMG_5035.sized.jpg And one pic of the car and the NYC skyline: http://deexboy.com/albums/album28/IMG_5038.sized.jpg All pics can be seen here: http://deexboy.com/gallery/v/album28/ And I also met with mudfoot and he got to see the HID's in person. I need to get a better camera to take better less grainy night pics. X --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melayout Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 The last pic is sweet. I keed I keeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhiTauFord Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 sweet . . . how was the Xtec install? Any pics of the install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laz Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 The installation is real easy, and I followed the instructions on http://www.pimpmyauto.com This is the link for them http://www.pimpmyauto.com/H7%20HID%20kit%20install.htm I will take some pics of the bulbs installed and post them, but the xtect kit matches everything so well that you are hard pressed to see anything out of the ordinary. In all it took me around an hour to do the install, and that was diabling the DRL's and taking my time. Well worth the money if you like this sort of stuff. X --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivNLegacy Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 nice....gotta get some HIDs myself soon....good photos too If you can read this, you're following too close. Click Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepFreeze2 Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Nice set up and pics!!! YA RLY!!! Home of +2500 useless posts!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legasee Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 dudes...thanks for the side-2-side comparisons...and xtechs too!!!...definitely going to get some! In Taiwan now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrx2blackGT Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 where did you order them? I want a 5K kit as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndas Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Nice call on the comparison...very good for you perspective...just a though but if you take that last pic with a better camera so you can enlarge it and that's a calendar shot for sure! Nice work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laz Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 Thanks guys for the compliments. Yes, the Xtec kit is a great product. I got it from this site. RPM has a special going on for LegacyGT.com members. I think it is a few dollars off than normal. Here is the link: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17448 I highly recommend RPM and the product he has for sale. And as for the last pic I really need to get me or rent a Digital SLR. My Powershot 400 is not good for pics like that. And I better hurry because that whole waterfront is under construction and pretty soon there will be no space to take a pic like that. X --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMtnGT Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Awesome pics laz. I'm gonna order the Xtec 5000k's tomorrow based on your review/pics- along with some comparison shopping/research I've been doing. Your car looks sweet by the way (I sometimes wish I woulda got white rather than silver...sigh) Your pic of the NYC skyline is awesome. I lived in Edgewater for about 4 years before moving out here to Mile High. I miss it... Peace Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanger Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 but gotta say, our stock projector light are brighter than most of the cars on the street. my friend told me this once, and got my keys and drove my cars down an dark alley to show me how the Legacy's projector looks from far away.... Man it is bright! but i'm planning to get HID next month, because it's just plain pimp ○ ○ ○ Instagram: itshangertime :spin: ○ ○ ○ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteNJ Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Gotta love the glare coming from your botched HID retro. Please use HID based projectors if you use HID bulbs. Oncoming drivers will thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laz Posted November 16, 2005 Author Share Posted November 16, 2005 Gotta love the glare coming from your botched HID retro. Please use HID based projectors if you use HID bulbs. Oncoming drivers will thank you. Please read all the countless threads on this forum regarding the Legacy stock projectors and how they stack up to HID projectors. They are not perfect, but in no way are we talking halogen reflectors glare here. Also it is hard for you to judge glare from a picture, but the cutoff on the wall will certainly will tell you something about the cutoff. Yes you can never compare it to a OEM setup with self-leveling, but you can't call it botched either. Have not gotten flashed yet, and I had people that I know driving in front of me. --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteNJ Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Please read all the countless threads on this forum regarding the Legacy stock projectors and how they stack up to HID projectors. They are not perfect, but in no way are we talking halogen reflectors glare here. Also it is hard for you to judge glare from a picture, but the cutoff on the wall will certainly will tell you something about the cutoff. Yes you can never compare it to a OEM setup with self-leveling, but you can't call it botched either. Have not gotten flashed yet, and I had people that I know driving in front of me. Well I do agree with you that its hard to use pictures to see actual output. However, in both your output shots you can see "ghosting" sitting a foot over your cut off line. To me that isn't acceptable. I just completed a retrofit for my ride and here are a few shots: Stanley Single Xenon low beam projector: http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTEyNzk2MTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTEyNzk2MDZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTEyNzk1ODZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 PeteNJ and All - Objectively, yes, bulb-ballast-ignitor "improper," plug-and-play kits for the LGTs definitely will result in *some* oncoming glare. And yes, viewed up-close, thre is definitely a bit of light creep above the "normal" (as compared to stock incandescents) cut-off. However, subjectively, on-the-road, this minimal glare seems to truly not offend oncoming traffic, and many - many - LGT members have attested to weeks, if not months, of driving with no flashes from oncoming vehicles, and some of the more considerate members even have had their friends drive their LGTs, while they tested this for themselves both in the rearview mirror of a pacing car up-front, or from oncoming lanes. Basically, it leads to an "acceptable" level of glare, and probably not any more so than even slightly mis-aimed stock incandescents for our LGTs - which itself has been cited as a source of complaint (a search will bear this out, with the latest incidence barely over a week ago). For true lighting enthusiasts - or otherwise purist who insists on having the best cutoff with absolutely minimal oncoming glare - of course, a full-out "proper" retrofit, including optics, is the only way to go, but it is by no means anywhere near as imperative as what is seen for many other applications. For those seeking a middle-ground due to either expense or technical ability, an H7/D2S adaptor ring should make for an even better cut-off/glare-reduction than just a plug-and-play. For the record, PeteNJ, no, I'm not running any type of HID kit/retrofit with my LGT. This is one of the few vehicles I've driven/owned in the past decade for which I'm totally happy with the light output/pattern/throw, "even incandescent." <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laz Posted November 16, 2005 Author Share Posted November 16, 2005 Thanks TSi+WRX I knew you would chip in. I think it also highly depends on where you live/play. I know in the streets on NYC you get more glare from the lamposts that abound all over the city, than from incoming cars with poorly aligned headlights. For now even though I was happy with my halogen lights I truly feel this is a compromise between usefulness and the *bling* factor. Like many have stated the OEM projectors are very good at keeping the light output consistent and with an acceptable cutoff. I have also read many pages of information regarding HID's and proper retrofits, but at the moment this I believe for me is the better compromise. This is not to say that a proper HID retrofit may not happen down the line, but for now this is acceptable. Getting back to the main reason for this post, it was to show members how the light output of a HID kit and OEM lights compare, not was it ever meant to be a kit vs. retrofit HID projectors comparison as NJPete made it out to be. I am well aware of the advantages and disavantages of both, and I believe this is a good middle ground for now. X --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLU24 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 lemme know next time if u wanna add a 6000k Xtec to the comparo, i'll come by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxiboy Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I too have a 5000K Xtec from RPM! What amuses me with this glare issue is that most if not all look at the headlights right in front of the car. I think the more proper way to test if you have glare is to look at the headlights where the opposite traffic is coming from, i.e. the other side of the road. I have tried this and do not see anything offending from my headlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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