Wheel fitment? ("aggressive") Megan/Godspeed experience anyone?

Before I start, this thread is not asking for opinions or education on suspension geometry, cars not being functional when low, excessive camber is stupid, etc. It's a thread asking ABOUT wheel fitment, not WHY would I do want to do that (although I do expect a reply like that).

 

Just seeing WHAT (again, not WHY) wheels people are running on older Legacys. I planned on getting some 17x9's, until I saw this picture:

 

http://laurante.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/2722388834_6df2dc171b.jpg

 

17x8 +22

 

Talking to my friend, he says older Subarus have smaller wheel wells, which I forgot to take into account.

 

Yes, I am going for the "hellaflush/aggressive/blahblahblah," as much as I hate coining those terms.

 

Post up your "wide" wheels if you have them, please!

 

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And the other question, anyone have experience with Megan and Godspeed coilovers on BG/BD? Yes, they ride like poo, yes they're cheap, yes <insert negative feedback here>. Real question, how low do they go?

 

Evidently, this is a ricer thread.

 

I shouldn't go that low.

My axles will rub the frame.

Handling will be horrible.

Rubbing everywhere.

Bottoming out on the road.

etc.

 

But it's going to happen.

 

So, people with experience with Godspeed and Megan, please chime in on HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT, not ride quality.

 

My previous car for reference of how ricey I am:

 

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/19/l_889951ee0e8e4eb0937c67dc9f5965ec.jpg

http://laurante.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/3358789054_e7f7e5877f_b.jpg

http://laurante.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/dday1030.jpg

well, i doubt you'll get as low as you want to, unless you butcher your stock springs..there arent many setups out there that drop you a whole lot, even megan racing and godspeed coilovers drop you MAYBE a MAX 0f 2.25" after theyve settled a bit but nonetheless, here's my take on the tires:

 

If you are not willing to roll your fenders, don't run 18's.

If you are not willing to roll your fenders, don't run 17x8's or wider.

If you are not willing to roll your fenders, don't run over a 225.

 

You want to run wide wheels and tires, or an aggressive setup, etc - better plan on fender mods and stiff coilovers so you can keep them off the fenders, and you need suspension first.

You want to run the car low, you run a narrower wheel or tire setup that will tuck in easier

 

 

if you want a super low but shitty handling, id look into tein s-techs, some of the tein stuff was made for cosmetic lowering only

Rolling fenders is fine, pulling is fine as well, but I don't want to run flares like this:

 

http://laurante.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/3042658587_9613777a32.jpg

 

WAS planning on

 

215/40 on a 17x9 +35 or whatever size Rota Torques come in, sidewall and stretch would be the same as my CR Kais on my 240. But I'm not sure anymore, seeing as the first picture I posted was okay, although he was still high.

 

And I think Megans can be okay, at least from what I've found. This guy is on Megans:

 

http://laurante.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/mg_0257copy.jpg

 

But that's an Impreza, so I'm not sure what the difference would be on Legacy's.

 

And only picture I've found so far of a car on Godspeeds:

 

http://laurante.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/picture011.jpg

 

No idea if these are at the lowest setting.

 

Thanks for your input!

 

BTW "stretching is dangerous and stupid" and "not beneficial, and decreases the handling of your car." Yes, I "know."

well you could go with a setup for the 93-01 impreza or 02-04 wrx, some mixing and matching but legacy specific stuff for a big drop isnt common, i was running 17x7 with a +35 with kyb's and h&r springs and it stuck out of the fender a tiny bit, i'd say a 17x8 with a +35 and a fairly negative camber would look sick

Yeah from what I've been reading, 04 STi stuff will swap right in, so my plan is to get coilovers from that. I've pretty much forgotten the idea of getting Legacy-specific coilovers.

 

I looked through your build thread, you've got some cool parts! How much did you pay for those headlights, and from where, if you don't mind me asking?

just make sure you read up good on the sti sus. swap.. i know theres a few things out of the ordinary.. like tophats or spring perches.. im not sure

 

thanks man, the headlights are the japenese projectors, i got them in japan, but theyre all over ebay, i blacked them out and cleared the corners..

 

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3984.m38.l1313&_nkw=jdm+legacy+projectors&_sacat=See-All-Categories

I have coilovers for an 04' STi, I can lay frame vdub style if I notched the frame for axles. They are 3 year old EMUSA coilovers they ride perfect for auto-x events, but like shit on the street. I love them a lot. -I'm not being sarcastic either.

 

They are on the highest setting for height the shock body is short so I'm automatically dropped 1.5" without adjusting collar.

 

I have them headlights too. I also have those fender flares too.

 

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d164/PaImportTuner/Subaru/DSCF4874a.jpg

sweet I see a bunch of those headlights on ebay!

 

ineedmorepsi, how much lower can you go with those coilovers? they're at the highest, so cool! your car is decently low right now too.

 

i did a search for emusa, can't find any on ebay! found these, they just ended a couple of weeks ago too!

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260571382714

 

LOOK AT THE PRICE, WOW.

 

i plan on notching the frame, too.

 

oh man low legacy owners, let's see more of them!

why is it that you want to go so low? just for show?

i guess you could say show.

 

this car is my daily driver, by no means am i trying to autocross, rallycross, etccross. i just want something low and flush, and what i (me, myself, me me me) feel looks nice.

ha i could never do that, the roads here would eat my bumper..

 

whatever works for you, i honestly dont care... it'll look pretty cool imo, as long as you dont say "hellaflush" and all that other shit, lol

 

^or have a massivley negative camber that puts 2" of your wheels rubber on the ground. ah!

 

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2313/2238061837_84bbd66101_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2141/2111970653_23cbedb00f.jpg

haha yeah i know what you mean. it's just so crazy how much the term "hellaflush" has blown up to be so huge. i'm from norcal, close to the bay area, and hella is a "norcal" word. it's amazing how big fatlace made it, pretty cool for them.

 

i don't know, i think vip shit is cool, but to each his own. it's by no means functional, and probably disgusting to some, but i dig it haha.

 

talking about vip and camber, i thought about it, looking at his car with the vs-xx's on, he doesn't have a lot of negative camber:

 

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3178/2723748035_3775b98c9c.jpg

 

i really need to get in touch with this guy. it's hard to judge from the picture, but it looks like maybe -1 or so. so i'm leaning towards fitting some 17x9's again, just dial in more camber and fit a 215/40 or something around there.

 

man it's hard to find slammed bg's haha!

 

btw ineedmorepsi here's his build thread:

 

http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/legacy-track-build-whatever-100555.html

 

man that's a lot of hate in one thread.

whenever my enkeis get here, i'll be running some pretty aggresive camber, for track and DD, -1.75, nothing insane but more than most..

 

wagonofdoom, yeah he's a cool guy.. he bought that car for $800 in the beginning

 

i dunno what vip is, but i know the massive camber adjustments like above look pretty sweet on some cars, most of the half built, chromed out hondas with cut springs and -4 to 6° camber around here have ruined it for me, but i can appreciate a car thats done it right

Well all the JDM guys or should I say hella flush people are copying what the euro crowd has been doing forever.

 

Flush or Poking is a euro thing that that the asian market along with everyone else is picking up on now. Oh yeh along with roof racks on anything you own..

 

Like me a couple of years ago having a MkI Rabbit with roof rack and 13x8 12+ offset with about an inch of frame clearance from ground, yeeeeeeeeeeea! . LOL

3.75" of thread to drop. LOL

 

That thread of his is making me laugh too. I have the same flares and want to see how he mounted them. Mine will be body color and have a black weather type seal/gasket between it and the car.

 

sweet I see a bunch of those headlights on ebay!

 

ineedmorepsi, how much lower can you go with those coilovers? they're at the highest, so cool! your car is decently low right now too.

 

i did a search for emusa, can't find any on ebay! found these, they just ended a couple of weeks ago too!

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260571382714

 

LOOK AT THE PRICE, WOW.

 

i plan on notching the frame, too.

 

oh man low legacy owners, let's see more of them!

Personally, I don't know why they hated on that wagon . I want mine to be a sedan version.

 

PRORACER 5zigen ZR+520 wheels.

 

http://imgboot.com/images/wagonofdoom/img0908.jpg

I just like how he bashes rotas for being knock offs and then buys wheels that are knock offs of enkei GTC 01's

im pretty sure he used rivets to put the flares on.. but the thing with the VWs is, they were made to do the strech/flush thing, everyone else whos doing it, wasnt

I just like how he bashes rotas for being knock offs and then buys wheels that are knock offs of enkei GTC 01's

 

Your wrong. Those are 5Zigen's style, not copied and 24lbs for 18x9 wheels is light(lighter than his smaller Work VSXX), quality racing wheels. 5Zigen is a big company in US and Japan with top notched quality stuff. Those guys in that thread were morons.

 

Now Enkie GTC 01 or OZ Super/Ultra Leggeras are very similar to each other. Whoever made them first is original then 1 of the copied. *I think Enkie copied OZ.

 

BTW, Rotas ARE knockoffs, not cheap pos, but affordable wheels for anything you want to use them for and not worrying about damage because replacing one is $100 away oppose to $300+.

 

http://homepage3.nifty.com/st-odawara/menu2/2-2wheels/oz%20leggera.JPG

http://www.triniparts.com/cat/images/gtc01.jpg

http://www.5zigenusa.com/products/wheel/image/proracer/ZR+520/color3_l.jpg

I think he car is sick too, but like I was saying on another forum, this whole Subaru scene is brand new for me, because people actually use their cars for real motorsports haha. And being too low isn't functional, with lots of negative camber.

I think he car is sick too, but like I was saying on another forum, this whole Subaru scene is brand new for me, because people actually use their cars for real motorsports haha. And being too low isn't functional, with lots of negative camber.

 

Too low is bad if your preloading your springs too much or if your shortening shock travel. Yes, more negative camber(-2*+) the better for racing but not for street.

 

If you must get Megans/Godspeed get the Type-RS that way you can just set it to fully soft for street or fully hard for race, don't bother with trying to make it dampen in the middle because on the cheaper coil-overs 16way adjustment is more like 3 way adjustment(softmedhard). If you get Type-SS it might be too rough.

too rough is fine, i'm just seeing how low they go. but i forgot about droop, so i think i'll be fine with whatever i get.

 

and check your PM's man ahaha!

Your wrong. Those are 5Zigen's style, not copied and 24lbs for 18x9 wheels is light(lighter than his smaller Work VSXX), quality racing wheels. 5Zigen is a big company in US and Japan with top notched quality stuff. Those guys in that thread were morons.

 

Now Enkie GTC 01 or OZ Super/Ultra Leggeras are very similar to each other. Whoever made them first is original then 1 of the copied. *I think Enkie copied OZ.

 

BTW, Rotas ARE knockoffs, not cheap pos, but affordable wheels for anything you want to use them for and not worrying about damage because replacing one is $100 away oppose to $300+.

 

 

ok, who made them first? all three are basicly the same. from looking online i found...

 

5zigen: 26-29Lbs (the 18's came in either 8.5 or 9.5)

oz: 19.2lbs

enkei: 23.1 Lbs

 

out of those IF i could afford it i'd take the OZ. who cares who came up with the design first. i still find it hypocritical. he's complaining about rota being lesser wheels when the 5zigen clearly aren't the best choice of those 3.

No No Mr Jimmeh you said they were knockoffs, wrong, they are not. I only mentioned weight because he did upgrade, they were lighter than those 3pc Works he previously had. AND to be honest the 5Zigens look significantly better than the other 2.

i guess if someone is worried more about looks then performance and i agree they look better to me. of the three did 5zigen make them first? still a track car should be about performance and not looks. from what i can tell that car is all about looks and not performance.